packing a Jeep for adventures

roamingaz

Explorer
Anyone that owns a Jeep Wrangler knows that space is very limited and there is not a lot of room for excess so careful planning and packing is needed. This loadout is based on a extended weekend trip for 3 people. I originaly had a Tentrax offroad trailer and though very cool it proved to be more work then I wanted for camping trips and since it attracted a lot of attention I didnt want to unhook and leave it at camp unattended for long periods so I listed it for a crazy high price and someone bought it. I do have some sellers remorse but needed to move on and find a new way to carry my gear.
I went from this:
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To this:
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I did buy a small utility trailer and it works ok but bounces a lot and ended up wearing holes in most of the bags I brought along. Packing it had to be done just right and once tied down it was difficult to get into the ice chest or getting anything out for a quick lunch on the trail.
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The one benifit is the ability to use as a cooking platform.
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But after driving the back road into Crown King, Arizona
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we decided that a trailer just wasn't practical for the trips we wanted to do and needed to regroup our gear and find a way to fit everything inside. I didn't want a roof rack because I am working on a rack to hold a kayak or a canoe.
So we had to slim down our gear and it has been a trial and error process but finaly have it down to what we need to be comfortable. Here is our entire loadout and will work well for 2/3 day trips.
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Contents from left to right
Rifle case for whatever long gun I bring
2-10lt MSR water bags
black bag on top left is a soft sided cooler
long blue bag is my wifes REI chair, she doesn't like the smaller chairs like my Alite Monarch in the light blue bag.
Kifaru Tipi
recovery strap and above it is the Kifaru stove and my daughters chair next to it.
top row, Kifaru Xray pack, 2-50lt Sealine bags hold our sleeping bags, pads, pillows and extra clothes towels etc.
PETT porta toilet
Northface Base camp medium bag holds all our food and cooking supplies.
Tools
The first thing we slimmed down was our tent, we started with a Kodiak Canvas that was pretty awesome in all regards except the poles were 5' and the entire setup weighed 73 pounds!
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We tried a couple different smaller tents but they were crowded. We finaly got a used Kifaru 4 man tipi and stove and it works very well so far but only set it up in our yard for a overnight.
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Next thing to work on was kitchen gear, my wife and I both felt that cooking, eating and clean up was consuming more time then we wanted and after all what fun is camping if you have all the luxeries of home. We both tried the freeze dried meals and some really sucked but Mountain House have some really tasty meals but couldn't convince our 5 year old it really was yummy so we bring some canned chef boyr'dee and she's happy. The best part is cleanup is really nothing more then utensils and mugs and cooking consist of boiling water.
Here is a picture of everything loaded and actually have some room to spare for other stuff if needed and our food bag isn't loaded near full.
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The next issue was to find a way to bring along my oversized surf rods, I mostly fish from shore for catfish and have a lot of money invested in my poles and do not want them dameged so my wife came up with the idea of a travel tube and lashing it to the inside roll bar. It works well and lucky she is a borderline midget so it doesn't bother here getting in or out of the Jeep.
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In the summer we bring a huge Yeti ice chest but haven't found a way to make it fit so tried out a smaller cooler and looks like it will work well strapped down so going to find a smaller Yeti, maybe I will put a cooler rack on over the tire but nice to know it fits if needed.
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The final piece needed was a way to carry firewood because here in the low desert there are not many trees and some parts of the national forest outlawed cutting trees for firewood. A quick solution came from Dave @ Trasheroo http://www.trasharoo.com/TRASHAROO /Welcome.html, this bag is huge and work perfect for firewood on the trip in and garbage on the trip out.
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So there you have it, all our gear for several days easily loaded in a Jeep with plenty of room to spare and easy to pack and unpack so more time to enjoy our trips and less time setting up.
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1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
really great write up sir and too cool seeing the family out learning to use LESS stuff to have MORE fun.
I am not anywhere near where you are but trying slowly to make sure what I carry is actually what we use.

Great idea on the MSR bags vs hard water containers....I think I will still that idea from ya
Could I beg a look in your kitchen bag? It would be nice to see that part of your setup.

Looking forward to more Az trip reports from ya.
 
Interesting...I never thought about using the bags. I have some spare dry bags...maybe I will stuff the sleeping bag and pillow in there.

Kudus to you for downsizing... I am a minimilist... my ex is a maximust... It should be easier to pack this year!
 

roamingaz

Explorer
No problem Lance here is pics of the kitchen bag, it needs some refinement but most everything is there and not at all bulky as compared to pelican cases or the elaborate setup some folks have. The MSR water bags are awesome, I have yet to have one leak bad and much easier to carry inside the Jeep. The bags are 10 liters each so 2 bags is roughly 5.3 gallons water and cost was $65 for both online. I always have a water filter if I do not have a reliable water sorce to resupply but most 3 day trips one 5 gallon water jug was plenty.
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The contents is still a work in progress but I have everything I need to boil water or cook a meal.
2-Sea to Summit bowls 6 plates
2 REI mugs, I am adding another 2 of the new style that are a bit larger
Jetboil Helios guide system, has 1.5 and 3lt pot, 3 canisters of fuel because thats what I have but normaly carry one.
2 tall Nalgene bottles
MSR water pot (enough water for 3 full mugs of coffee)
cutting board
ziplock bag of instant coffee packets
collaspable sink and washing soap and bandana works well to dry or wash
paper towels
utensils
6 freeze dried meals
I need to add few items but the bag is about half full with this stuff and have more then enough room for anything else I would need to prepare a basic meal or for more food pouches.
The dry bags are really nice because they keep the dust out of everything, nothing worse then getting done with a long dirt road trip and having to shake out the dust of your sleeping bag. One bag has all sleeping bags, pads and pillow for my wife and daughter and my bag has the same plus extra clothing and beach towels etc.
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shortbus4x4

Expedition Leader
Jeep Wrangler with three people and stuff is a tight pack, thanks for sharing how you do it. A good place to learn about packing light is ADVrider, packing everything needed for a weeklong trip on a dual sport takes some thinking.
 

stioc

Expedition Leader
Great ideas there and something I'm always struggling to keep under control. What sleeping bags and pillows do you have that pack so small in those two dry bags? Between the three of us our sleeping bags, sleeping pads and chairs take up pretty much the whole roof rack (large canvas cargo bag on the roof rack). What about the tent heater for when it gets below 30F overnight? Or a small table? I have a Roll-A-Table. Instead of the firewood I recently switched to the Camp Chef propane fire-ring due to a lot of open-fire bans around here. Now I need to find a place for it and a larger propane tank too :snorkel:. On the positive side though, I've recently switched to the REI medium duffle bags for clothing and personal stuff (one for each person) and that's reduced some bulk/weight. Then there's the recovery gear (shackles, straps, hilift, shovel, extinguisher, axe, etc) which stores in the rear storage platform.
 

roamingaz

Explorer
The sleeping pads my wife and I use are Exped my daughter uses a rei ultralight. Pillows are thermarest and planning to upgrade to the new down version. I normally use a marmot 0 degree bag but upgraded to a Kifaru 20º my daughter has a north face tigger and my wifes bag is a mountain hardwear.
Our shelter is a Kifaru tipi and for heat we use the Kifaru wood stove that is in my picture. It is amazing how warm it makes the tent and has spark arresters so I shouldn't have any problems this time of year. I am planning on doing a review video of the tipi and stove.
 

Yuman Desert Rat

Expedition Leader
Very impressive! Especially fitting 3 humans in there. I used to an uber-miniamalist, boy has that changed! Are you gojng to switch to a larger Jeep as your little one starts to grow ? If you ever go with a roof rack system check out body armor. I cobbled together a good system usjng the body armor base and. Thule crossbars as well as some aluminium sand ladders. I can have the RTT up there with boxes or pull it off and rock the kayak. I just wish I had a way to fit them both up there.
 

jscusmcvet

Explorer
This is a great description and really well thought out. I am digging that Kiarfu tipi. My oldest son and I spent many camping trips living out of our TJ when he was younger. Half the fun was planning, packing and having him make the decision, "Do we really need xxxx?"

As the wife and I are getting a little older, have another little one (surprise!) and a little sore... er... we have upgraded to a small pop up. My older boy (almost 19) says, "That's not camping":)

Great job on the write up and great pics of you and the family using the jeep and gear as intended brought a big smile to my face. :)

John
 

roamingaz

Explorer
Thanks guys!
We have tried a bunch of different vehicles from a fj80 with rtt and ARB fridge to a truck with a four wheel camper and they all were ok but they were all built as a dedicated camping vehicle. The problem with that was if we were limited to using only that vehicle for trips so when our other kids were with us or we took the boat out and camped at the lake the "expo" vehicle sat at home or in the parking lot. I do miss my fridge but my Yeti cooler works very well and doesn't require a dual battery setup or solar panels so less work in settting up camp and less issues making sure everything is working correctly.
The tipi is just plain awesome and yes there is no floor but its really not a issue, I will do a separate review of it and the stove.
 

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