What's the opinion of the Sequioa as a general purpose expo vehicle?

CSG

Explorer
I know it's not as off-road worthy as the LC but how does it generally stack up for less aggressive travel?
 

Jacket

2008 Expedition Trophy Champion
Toyota 4wd + low range can't be all bad, right? But its relatively new to the market, its big, and the aftermarket support is limited. If you need lots of space, and have open trails/roads with mild to moderate difficulty, I think it would do just fine.

Bill Burke spent (spends?) quite a bit of time in one on the trails, so you could research his experiences with it.
 

clinnet

Observer
Okay I'll bite on this one.

Sure. Why not? I love that its a Toyota with interior room to brag about - compared to the Land Cruiser.
The Sequoia has ATRAC and a Locking C-diff. They are pretty good insurance for overlanding purposes. You got cupholders and outlets everywhere

V8!V8!V8! More power to haul stuff.

Only mark against the Sequoia is the size - but its also a plus if you're carrying more than two in comfort.

So it boils down to where you're going. Is it somewhere youu have to do a x# of point turns. Or is it where the length and width are not a factor? You get the idea.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
It's a Toyota... If you only drive it on the road and some gravel roads you'll never have a problem with it. Petersen's had one of the new gen (looks like the new Tundra) models in their 4x4 of the year test and while it wasn't the best trail toy (big suprise...It's HUGE) it was rock solid.

The worst thing I can say about Toyota lately is that they have this whole "build strength : Size ratio" thing in reverse... They USED to put a 3/4 / 1-Ton Frame under small trucks. Now, here in N.America, they started making bigger trucks but they shrunk the frame compared to the old trucks. I just don't understand it.

I don't know if the new Sequoia had this issue though, they based it off of the New Tundra fairly heavily I assume and everything they built for that truck was huge. I do know it has an air-bag rear suspension so that may or may not be an issue. If it has the same diff as the Tundra then that thing is AMAZING!!! I actualy think the First Gen Sequoia may be a little more trail friendly and are still Toyotas so they're pretty much top of the heap.

Like I said, it's a Toyota, if it can't handle it, I don't know what you're going to buy that will.

Cheers

Dave
 
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CSG

Explorer
Most of my travels are high desert. I'm not really interested in some of the serious trails that some of you guys go in search of. For me, it's more of a vehicle that would be OK on some of the 4x4 marked roads you see around here that's big enough for a 6 footer to sleep in.

I'd been considering a Suburban but they're longer still. Based on having a 4x4 GMC 3/4 ton extended cab, long bed truck that has been able to take me to most of the places I want to go, I think a Suburban would too. I guess my real question is, how much more capable is the Sequoia over a Suburban?
 

clinnet

Observer
CSG - Not bagging on the domestics.

But in that price range where the Subarban and Sequoia resides, I would take quality over quantity. I place priority on how I'm going to feel driving a vehicle over miles and miles. Do I enjoy touching and seeing the interior? Half the trip is inside the vehicle. So get in a Sequoia and see if you can feel "it".

Plus, I know I can rely on the 4wd system if I need it.

B
 

craig

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
Overlanding often means long distances between fuel stops. What sort of range does it have?
 

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
the slightly older body style Sequoias are awesome in my opinion. There is currently an expedition using them and a Tundra...
 

CSG

Explorer
So the consensus so far is that for moderate 4x4 use the Sequoia is fine?

I guess I'm wondering what its limits are if the vehicle is stock? Obviously, it's not a rock crawler but where don't you want to take it?
 

cruiser guy

Explorer
Where are you going? Will it be strictly stateside? If so, no problem. If you're planning on venturing further afield on a regular basis (like Central America) you need to know that the Tundra/Sequoia is a Toyota for the North American market and is either rare or non-existant in other places.
 

Superu

Explorer
Originally Posted by craig
Overlanding often means long distances between fuel stops. What sort of range does it have?
If the trip often means that, then a Hybrid or your choice of fuel sipper vehicle is a better choice.

That's what fuel cans are for! :smiley_drive:
 

kjp1969

Explorer
We have a 2wd 2004 Sequoia that's a kid hauler and tow vehicle for our 6000lb camping trailer. It does both very well. The 3rd row seats on this model remove completely and with the second row folded flat there's a ton of room.

If you're not concerned about ultimate trail performance, but rather reliability and build quality, I'd say you can't go wrong. The stock tires are approximatley 31", and it looks like you could stick 33's under there without lift. I can't say for sure about that, though.
 

craig

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
If the trip often means that, then a Hybrid or your choice of fuel sipper vehicle is a better choice. :sombrero:

Are you being serious about a Hybrid, or just making fun of my comment?

Since when has range NOT been a fundamental consideration when purchasing an expedition/Overland capable rig?
 

clinnet

Observer
Are you being serious about a Hybrid, or just making fun of my comment?

Since when has range NOT been a fundamental consideration when purchasing an expedition/Overland capable rig?

:sombrero: in my original post = take a chill pill.

Since you're being serious. Yes it is a fundamental consideration. But in practice, the majority of overlanders/expo guys choose a vehicle that ends up with crappy mileage anyways. They choose a rig they are familiar with in terms of repairing or a truck that will give them the confidence the rig will take them to where they want to go.

I drive a 80 series LC for goodness sake (MPG 10-11). I chose to use it not for the fuel mileage.

As for the range (I'm assuming the OEM fuel tank capacity in your post).They make up for it by outfitting the rig with aux tank or fuel cans as someone has posted. And supplementing that with what is the nearest fuel stop at this point of my fuel consumption so I know how much to bring. So on and so on...

As for "overlanding often means long distance between fuel stops", maybe for some but not for others.

To clear it all up, my post was not meant to be personal. That is if you took it as such.

I apologize to the original poster if my post took the thread in skewed direction.
 

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