Chainsaw and bolt cutters?

roboter

Observer
I may have went a bit overboard, but you buy this stuff so you dont need it right? We're on our way to South America and so I bought a 20inch bar Stihl chain saw and some Rigid bolt cutters for those wire fences along every bit of road.

Has anyone needed a chainsaw or fence cutters while expeditioning? How many trees in the road will I encounter in SA? Will I need cut an old fence to dip off the road onto some land to boondock camp?

My wife says Im crazy.
 

southpier

Expedition Leader
x2.

if you need to free prisoners or something, but not so you can trespass.

you're representing all of us, remember
 

Sirocco

Explorer
If I read it correctly I think he means the farmers or locals fence the road off. As in there is a wire fence perpendicular to the direction of the road (for whatever reason!).

Surely nobody here on EXPO would consider cutting up peoples property and driving through their backyards! :O

Chainsaw could also be used to cut bigger bits of firewood etc if that is your thing. I dont use one, but a tree accross your path may prove problematic if there is no other road to pass by on. Depends on where your going etc.

G
 

roboter

Observer
Correct, it isn't private fence I'm looking to peel open a little bit. What I am talking about is similar to the federal hwy fencing system along the interstate hwy's across the usa. This is in case of an emergency. Im not going to go to a cow pasture and rip a fence open. As I look in every picture of roads in South America I have seen on the net they do not show this particular fence on the hwy, so it is unlikely I'm going to need it.

I'm the pillar of America and I will represent my country in another foreign country exactly how my government would.....................

I'm being an ***, but in all seriousness the fence cutters will probably end up dead weight. The chainsaw however will come in handy I'm sure. I will certainly check with local laws in Peru and Chile for foresting. Perhaps only downed and particular species are allowed, for example.
 

Karma

Adventurer
HI,
Once, on a trip in the southwest deserts, I ran into a wire gate on a trail that was supposed to be open. I was not even tempted to cut my way through even though it cost me 20 miles of bypass. Not worth it and not friendly.

However, I do carry a chain saw on trips into wooded areas. It has proven itself several times where trees had fallen on the trail. Without the saw, there was no option but to turn around. Winches often won't work on larger trees. On desert type trails, I don't carry it. The chances of needing it are very small.

Sparky
 

Ruined Adventures

Brenton Cooper
I'm being an ***, but in all seriousness the fence cutters will probably end up dead weight. The chainsaw however will come in handy I'm sure. I will certainly check with local laws in Peru and Chile for foresting. Perhaps only downed and particular species are allowed, for example.
Handy indeed, but not always necessary. An axe will do the job painfully slow, but it will also split your firewood and the back end can serve as a big striking tool.

Honestly ask yourself how much trailblazing you will do? Will you be cutting down the Amazon or just chopping thru an occasional log that's fallen thru your path. Not trying to be a jerk, but I've gone thru the same thought process...

I chose to avoid the chainsaw. That's just one more engine to maintain and keep running. Not to mention the possibility of fuel and bar oil leaking everywhere. If it doesn't work then it's definitely dead weight, at least an axe will work 100% of the time. I use chainsaws frequently at work and even when they're maintained correctly they can be a real pain in the butt when not functioning. My .02 cents
 

Ray Hyland

Expedition Leader
Quote: "Has anyone needed a chainsaw or fence cutters while expeditioning?"


It depends on how remote or primitive are the roads you are travelling on, and how heavily forested the region is.

On an expedition to circle East Timor a number of years ago we had a huge tree across the road, and with no chainsaw it turned into a 2-day detour.

When driving remote tracks in Malaysia and Indonesia we often use a Chainsaw to clear brush, and also to cut logs to repair bridges along the way. (If you are planning to do that, make sure you have the rest of the bridge-building gear you need, like a small sledge, a big bag of spikes, and some old motorbike chain to wrap around the logs, which you then nail together).

In Russia we found that there were always a couple of saws along with any group in the bush.

Travelling in Northern China, Mongolia and Kazakhstan, nobody ever had a chainsaw. But then, we never needed one. The areas where we were travelling had very few trees. We had lots of picks and shovels though, as most of what we were dealing with was rocks and sand.

In BC we use chainsaws all the time, both for trail clearing and trail maintenance. On almost every trip you pull a saw out at some point unless it is a well-travelled trail like the Whipsaw.

So, I don't see a lot of use for the fence cutter, but if you do plan to travel remote roads in a heavily forested region, like many parts of Central and South America, and you have lots of room, I think a good chainsaw is a good safety tool.

If you plan to stick to the main roads, I would just carry a small emergency hand saw, like http://www.husqvarnachainsaws.co.uk/acatalog/Hand_chain_saws_.html

As with any tool, make sure you are proficient in its use before you need it.

Cheers

Ray
 

gjackson

FRGS
I used bolt cutters to break into Congo once. They are very nice for cutting locks when the locals don't have the key. Also used chain saws in Guatemala for tree clearing. Done it with axes and machetes as well, but the cs is much faster if a lot more trouble to maintain.

cheers
 

Ruined Adventures

Brenton Cooper
So, I don't see a lot of use for the fence cutter, but if you do plan to travel remote roads in a heavily forested region, like many parts of Central and South America, and you have lots of room, I think a good chainsaw is a good safety tool.
Great point Ray. If you're driving a unimog or something with tons of room, go for it! If you're driving a cramped Toyota 4runner...you'll survive without it.
 

Bigfoot1963

Observer
I always carry a pair of small bolt cutters in my rig. Its for those times when you get fence wire wrapped around your driveline, or caught around your axle.
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
I always carry a pair of small bolt cutters in my rig. Its for those times when you get fence wire wrapped around your driveline, or caught around your axle.
I do too. The only quick option for cutting a battery cable in a hurry. I have done that many times.
An animal with its leg wrapped up in a fence is something too. Wish I had mine with me when we found a young horse with its leg tangled.
Mine include tubing benders on the side. I suppose that could be used for tensioning a snare wire.
 

Karma

Adventurer
I do too. The only quick option for cutting a battery cable in a hurry. I have done that many times.
An animal with its leg wrapped up in a fence is something too. Wish I had mine with me when we found a young horse with its leg tangled.
Mine include tubing benders on the side. I suppose that could be used for tensioning a snare wire.

Hi Henry,
What in the world would cause you to have to cut your battery cables "many times"? I can't imagine it.

Sparky
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
Hi Henry,
What in the world would cause you to have to cut your battery cables "many times"? I can't imagine it.

Sparky
Yikes! I hope I never need to cut my own :)
I am a Firefighter. The bolt cutters are a high priority tool in an MVA. Cutting the power on a vehicle involved in an accident is pretty important for safety reasons. (Fire-SRS-air bags) I keep a 5lb extinguisher and those cutters handy in my side compartment. Better to have the small tools with which I am accustomed.
I carry the ChannelLock 6-in-1 Rescue tool in my bunker gear. It can cut a vehicle battery cable. Bigger cables on trucks it will not. That is where the bolt cutters do the trick.
You do need to be very careful and mind the hybrids and electric vehicles today. High voltages are present in those.

Do I really need to act while off duty? If I have the proper equipment and I can safely, the door is open.

I did get to cut the chain on a bicycle with bolt cutters to free the finger of the three year old boy who had run his finger into the sprocket. I never did hear if they saved his finger in a useable fashion.
I can see many uses for such a tool to be with me.
 
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Karma

Adventurer
HI Henry,
I salute you for your service. But, really, how realistic are bolt cutters for the average person? For cutting battery wires????? How can you realistically recommend them? Be serious. I hold posts like yours in contempt. If you are serious, you have no contact with the real world of the average person. If you are bragging, then leave it at home. All you accomplish is stirring up imaginary problems.

Sparky
 

Ruined Adventures

Brenton Cooper
Yikes! I hope I never need to cut my own :)
I have a coworker who got in a pretty bad wreck...by the time the 1st engine company arrived he had already checked out the other drivers and cut his own battery cables!
You do need to be very careful and mind the hybrids and electric vehicles today. High voltages are present in those.
Amen. Never cut the cables covered in orange or blue loom on hybrids...because you'll die.
 

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