05 Tundra Questions

[TheSkeeter]

I've been a member for a while but this is my first post. I've been pm-ing with another memeber and he has been a big help but I'd also like some other opinions. I'm a total newbie to modifications. I owned a Nissan years ago that I put a suspension and body lift on but I paid for it to be installed at a shop.

I have a stock 05 Tundra Limited access cab 4x4 with the 4.7. I'd like to give it a little lift in the front and a little bigger tire. I am currently running 265/70/17 Cooper AT3 on factory rims. I want to keep them (rims) but I'd like them to stick out a little so spacers I guess is what I need but I've read good and bad on them. I know I need a little help on the back end and was thinking air bags after talking briefly with the other member. I tow a 20 foot bass boat. I primarily will use the truck for pulling the boat but there will be some camping involved too. I also have a 2014 4Runner that will cover the camping normally.

My biggest question is would adding the 5100 shocks for lift in the front be OK since this truck will not see any serious off roading. You could most likely get to all my spots in a 2 wheel drive in dry weather. I'm not ruling out coilovers but is it something I really need? Is there anything I'm overlooking? I get lost reading all the builds on here. I wasn't sure what a coilover was until the other member told me. If I lift the front and back. Either airbags, springs or blocks, what size tire would I be able to run? Would the spacers increase or decrease the size... or maybe not effect?

Thanks for any help. This is the truck and boat in question.

 

[toyotech]

Bare basic and decent set up would be 5100 all around with wheelers AAL. Either the single AAL or 3 leaf progressive AAL. This would be the most cost effective lift imo. Wheel spacers are ok. Make sure you get hub centric spacers and torque them to specs. Check them often or at every tire rotation to be safe.


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[rambrush]

I would suggest you stroll over to: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/ there are several folks there that can assist in your lift ideas. I have a 06 DC with the 3 leaf AAL and Icons up front.

I've been a member for a while but this is my first post. I've been pm-ing with another memeber and he has been a big help but I'd also like some other opinions. I'm a total newbie to modifications. I owned a Nissan years ago that I put a suspension and body lift on but I paid for it to be installed at a shop.

I have a stock 05 Tundra Limited access cab 4x4 with the 4.7. I'd like to give it a little lift in the front and a little bigger tire. I am currently running 265/70/17 Cooper AT3 on factory rims. I want to keep them (rims) but I'd like them to stick out a little so spacers I guess is what I need but I've read good and bad on them. I know I need a little help on the back end and was thinking air bags after talking briefly with the other member. I tow a 20 foot bass boat. I primarily will use the truck for pulling the boat but there will be some camping involved too. I also have a 2014 4Runner that will cover the camping normally.

My biggest question is would adding the 5100 shocks for lift in the front be OK since this truck will not see any serious off roading. You could most likely get to all my spots in a 2 wheel drive in dry weather. I'm not ruling out coilovers but is it something I really need? Is there anything I'm overlooking? I get lost reading all the builds on here. I wasn't sure what a coilover was until the other member told me. If I lift the front and back. Either airbags, springs or blocks, what size tire would I be able to run? Would the spacers increase or decrease the size... or maybe not effect?

Thanks for any help. This is the truck and boat in question.

 

[AaronK]

Before tinkering with your rear suspension, I'd check and see if your rig has the proportional brake valve. It increases the brake fluid pressure to your rear brakes as you load the rear end down. Air bags or AALs would lessen the sag and and ergo lessen the pressure increase. That's the problem I'm trying to work out before I mod my suspension.

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[rexwang]

first off.

what tire size do you plan up going up to? the 165/70/17 you have right now is the largest size tire you can run with absolutely no issues. this is confirmed over and over. if yo uwant to go to a 285/70/17, there is mixed information about rubbing. in a nut shell, if its a street queen and youre okay with minimal rubbing at full steering lock, then youre fine. if you want to the use of full suspension travel and steering to go with that, then you will run into major rubbing.

if youre looking into a lift because you want a bigger tire, then you need to consider how far youre willing to go to fit the tire.

any progressive leaf pack (addaleaf or full pack) is designed to lift and provide a cush ride. although they might increase load capacity, they are not designed for that. single leafs may word better for that. airbags as well, but suspension travel also comes into play.

 

[TheSkeeter]

Thanks for the replies. According to what I see guys do on here, this will be a street queen. Well established trails are the most I'll see in it. I was hoping to run a 285 tire but I also don't want to cut up the truck to do it. I had to do some cutting on my other lifted truck and I didn't like how it turned out.

This truck is a Limited. It's the 4.7 with the VSC, TRAC and LSD. It has the tow system with 130 amp alternator and trans cooler. Factory was 265/65/17.
Is there something to look for on the brakes that would tell me if its the proportional value?

 

[rexwang]

nothing to look for.

you have it. nuff said.

when you lift the rear it extends the axle away from the body simulating a nose-dive during braking. what the valve does is to lower the brake pressure sent to the rear wheels to prevent lock up. the reverse happens when youre super loaded down. increases brake pressure due to the added load.

google "brake proportional valve bracket" and youll see what you need. i just went to home depot and bought some random metal bracket, cut it down and drilled it. works great.

i have an 05 dub cab 2wd with 5100s on its highest perch up front with a toytec single add-a-leaf in the rear and 1.5" spidertrax all around, 265/70/17 BFG KOs.

also dont forget, if youre 4wd you must consider cv angle.

 

[AaronK]

I thought it was phased out as electronic whiz bangs took over.
I want to make mine easily adjustable for how much load I'm carrying.

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[TheSkeeter]

Thanks for the help guys. How would you know what size spacers will work on your truck? 1.5 inch seems like it would be getting close to the fender flares. Do you have any pics of your truck you can share rexwang?

If I do all this, does that hurt them being able to align the truck? Would I need to go to a specialist to do the lifted truck or can anyone do it? I had Sears do my other truck and they screwed it up. I messed up a set of Super Swamper SSR tires with them trying to get it right.

 

[AaronK]

I'd probably try and find an off-road shop that does suspension work. I wouldn't trust a normal place with an alignment street suspension mods

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[rexwang]

Thanks for the help guys. How would you know what size spacers will work on your truck? 1.5 inch seems like it would be getting close to the fender flares. Do you have any pics of your truck you can share rexwang?

If I do all this, does that hurt them being able to align the truck? Would I need to go to a specialist to do the lifted truck or can anyone do it? I had Sears do my other truck and they screwed it up. I messed up a set of Super Swamper SSR tires with them trying to get it right.

i dont have any pics with the spacers on (i drove my tacoma today). i will tell you this. the tire sits just outside of the mud flap (just enough to fling tire sauce all over the place).

as far as alignment goes, i have been going to mom and pop alignment shops for my trucks and its been great. how do i know what shop to go to? look for the most expensive looking classic car and ask where they go. i ended up at a shop called "Lee and Son". they dont use computers, in-fact they do the alignment on a Hunter Machine sales rep's car. prior to that, i used was a shop called "anderson frame and alignment" with a bay full of classics. no warranty on the work and its a little more expensive BUT its done right.

i did a quick search for east tennesee... http://petesalignment.com/ id give these guys a call and see if they can help. if you lift ~2.5" in front the caster will will fall out of stock values. too bad so sad, deal with it or get aftermarket uca's.

 

[TheSkeeter]

Thanks. I'll check them out. I'm not originally from here and I only know a handful of people here so finding trustworthy people is hard.

 

[tennesseewj]

This is the truck and boat in question.

I'm of no help for your truck questions, but that's a great picture of the Skeeter!

Taken on Douglas, I assume?

 

[TheSkeeter]

Yes, Douglas from Shady Grove launch. Thanks