06-08 Wrangler Recall

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Any discussion yet about the recently announced recall? It applies to all Auto Trans equiped JK's from 06-08. I would think it's a pretty serious issue for guys here. I'm particularly interested because I'm somewhat peripherally involved.

When I was working at Dana in 04-05 designing underhood plumbing, there was an issue on the Dodge Ram where it was the only large pickup made that did not have a transmission temperature sensor. Ford and Chev both had one. In the Dodge, if you're doing heavy, slow off-road, the transmission builds and builds heat and can't shed it well. That part is normal. What was abnormal was the lack of a transmission temp warning. The driver could work the truck with no indication of a problem. Transmission oil temps could climb well past the working limits of the fluid. They could keep climbing to levels that would eventually melt the rubber hose on the trans cooler lines, with obvious consequences.

Looks like the same issue applies to the Wrangler. I'm not sure why all the sudden they decided to recall the Wrangler now, when they've had this same flaw on other vehicles. I'm not sure what has changed since I got out in 05. it might just be that the Wrangler is the only vehicle used off-road enough where this problem attracted the attention of the NHTSA. The recall states that it's a problem with the transmission overflowing out the vent, and the fluid drips on the cat and catches fire. I don't think that's the extent of the problem.

Apparently they are going to install a temp sensor in the vehicle, and reprogram the PCM to give a warning on the driver display. I wonder how they plan to wire it?

I would recommend anybody with one of these vehicles get this done.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
I'm not sure why all the sudden they decided to recall the Wrangler now, when they've had this same flaw on other vehicles..... The recall states that it's a problem with the transmission overflowing out the vent, and the fluid drips on the cat and catches fire. I don't think that's the extent of the problem.
There is impending litigation from several fires. I've been watching it develop for a year and a half...
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
There is impending litigation from several fires. I've been watching it develop for a year and a half...

Hasn't there been any attention from people with Ram trucks? They had the same issue back then, maybe still do.

Sometimes if an issue doesn't happen often enough, they get away with it sweeping it under the carpet. The dealers manage to blame it on the owners, or there just aren't enough instances that people start talking. But once it makes headlines on bulletin boards however, things get rolling.

Nomadic, not sure, that was the headline. Might be 07 JK's made in 06...

I would bet it's an issue on TJ's anyway. I don't know for sure, but I don't think they put trans temp sensors on anything.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
It's just JKs, I think.

The fires I've seen have been on Euro-spec units; the trans fill tube is in a different location.
I've noticed my trans fluid low a few times and queried my dealer about it; had the trans serviced and they said all was well...
Wonder how this will play out with my lifetime powertrain warranty?
 

86cj

Explorer
Hasn't there been any attention from people with Ram trucks? They had the same issue back then, maybe still do.

Sometimes if an issue doesn't happen often enough, they get away with it sweeping it under the carpet. The dealers manage to blame it on the owners, or there just aren't enough instances that people start talking. But once it makes headlines on bulletin boards however, things get rolling.

Nomadic, not sure, that was the headline. Might be 07 JK's made in 06...

I would bet it's an issue on TJ's anyway. I don't know for sure, but I don't think they put trans temp sensors on anything.


My company 2003 Dakota has a trans sensor and light, I know it works. The trans goes into a hard shifting mode after the trans light comes on. The factory Aux electric fan quit last summer and the truck was running hot.

I also noticed my LJ shifting real hard when we were in Moab, this was after some slow going in 100* heat. I think the Jeep has a trans temp sensor but only the computer gets the info. I put a trans cooler on the Jeep after that just to be safe.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
It's not good enough to just have the computer know. There needs to be a light. There's a serious risk of starting a fire when that oil gets too hot. It's surprisingly common.
 

bugman

New member
I put an 05 Hemi with the auto trans in my 84 Scrambler and was also surprised at the lack of a trans temp sensor. I included that in my gauge cluster and was amazed at how quickly the trans temp heated up when crawling slowly. I also put in an extra trans cooler which helped greatly.
 

bugman

New member
Yes that was out of a ram. It's got te 545 rfe? 5 speed auto and took the 231 t case of mine that I built up and bolted it up with no problems. It doesn't hang down like th 241 t case did. It turned out beautifully.
 

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