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Thread: U.S. alternative to Seitz top hinged windows

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    Would love to go to a show like that. Marine hatches are very popular for skylights, and I'll definitely be considering one of them. They all seem to be single glazed through, so don't know if condensation would be an issue. The marine stuff is always high quality, but given they always stay at sea level, wonder if the double glazed windows would struggle with pressure at high altitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldherewecome View Post
    They all seem to be single glazed through, so don't know if condensation would be an issue. The marine stuff is always high quality, but given they always stay at sea level, wonder if the double glazed windows would struggle with pressure at high altitudes.
    I looked into the marine windows and came away with the feeling that while I could live with condensation, I would have problems justifying the the cost. Most all of the windows are custom-made and anything with "marine" in the title seems to include a considerable premium. Here's a scary example--The Ocean flyscreen/blind combination to cover a two-foot-square window is--shade only/not the window--$330.

    Admittedly, though, I was shopping at the Seitz-end of the window continuum. Had I been considering Armor Vision or similar windows from the off, the cost of the marine equivalents might not have seemed so gruesome.

    FWIW, here's the window page from the Vetus catalog. I shows the construction and talks about the characteristics you get to control:

    boat windows.jpg
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    Here is a nice expensive optionLovely though!)
    http://www.outbound.eu/en/windows.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by yabanja View Post
    Here is a nice expensive optionLovely though!)
    http://www.outbound.eu/en/windows.php
    We have a set of these. They are less than half the price of KCT. Very nice IMHO. Outer rims are fiberglass, as opposed to steel for the KCT, but if you don't need bulletproof frames, then I would go with these. The build quality is top notch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yabanja View Post
    Here is a nice expensive optionLovely though!)
    http://www.outbound.eu/en/windows.php
    They look great!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S2DM View Post
    We have a set of these. They are less than half the price of KCT. Very nice IMHO.
    Was acquiring them and getting them to you relatively straightforward? Any advice to pass on should one wish to go this route?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhiscox View Post
    Was acquiring them and getting them to you relatively straightforward? Any advice to pass on should one wish to go this route?

    Thanks.
    Yes, very straight forward. From order to being on my doorstep in California was about 4 weeks, shipped via airfreight and very well packaged. They also handled the customs broker which was very nice (the customs broker contacted us to pay the fees, but outbound had taken care of all the paper work and the fees weren't much). They were also very quick to respond to tech questions, even a few months after the sale when I finally got around to routing the openings.

    We've ordered quite a bit from Europe for the Mog, and this was far and away the easiest. The only potential downside I would say for stateside customers is that the windows have a tiered or stepped flange, obviously metric, which doesn't correspond with the typical 2,3 or 4" wall common here. It wasn't that bad, I cut the inner opening to fit, and then routed a second more shallow channel to seat the flange all the way around. The only spot the windows are attached to the wall is at the outer flange via a sika 252 bond, so routing the stepped flange may have been overkill anyways.

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    Thank you for the very informative and helpful reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by david506th View Post
    Got a quote back on some windows, still waiting on the 35-60mm thickness. These are the ones mentioned above that come from China.


    RV Window
    Model: MG09RW
    Description: black outer aluminum frame, white PU inner frame, with flynet and sun shade. Standard windows for wall thickness 25-35mm.
    MOQ:20 pcs total or 20 pcs for one size only

    1)1000*500mm USD 191.40/pc
    2)1000*600mm USD 205.81/pc
    3)500*350mm USD 102.62/pc
    4)800*500mm USD 156.47/pc
    5)1200*800mm USD 284.64/pc
    I would consider getting in on an order. I need 3 or 4 windows.....

    Allan

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    Just got back from abenteuer allrad in Germany and saw the KCT and Outbound kit first hand. The KCT stuff is luxury yacht standard, but to be honest I actually preferred the construction and look of the Outbound kit. The frameless double glazed window and slimmer profile frame looked so much tidier than the bulky KCT stuff. The seitz s4 windows are so cheap and plasticcy in comparison, but I can't fault anyone choosing them (as I likely will!) given the cost of the alternatives.

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