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Thread: Fred the Van. The More We Explore's Adventure Van Build Thread

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    Default Fred the Van. The More We Explore's Adventure Van Build Thread

    Current state:

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    it's a great van. '97 7.3L, 125k miles, 15 passenger. A little surface rust on the frame (it's from NJ). It's got a lift from Tulsa Truck Manufacturing D60s front and rear, mile marker hubs, and brand new 33s.. I'm not crazy about the lift (leaf spring with shackles in the front), but it does the job. I'll probably end up slapping a bunch of Ujoint parts on it. It's got some bump steer and it wanders a little at 65 mph +. Overall it's a very very solid platform. It's HUGE.



    Specs/details:
    - 1997 EB (Extended Body) Passenger Van
    - 7.3L Diesel
    - purchased with 124,444 miles on it
    - 285/75/16 all-terrain tires (10 ply)
    -Warn front manual locking hubs
    -Dana 60 front and rear axles, fresh oil in both
    -4x4 conversion completed by Tulsa Truck Manufacturing
    -New roof rack almost the entire length of the van
    -Trailer brake controller
    - Mile Marker manual hub upgrade



    Maintenance notes:
    - heavy duty torque converter (for an RV) installed in the tranny back in 2011. Nice, crisp shifts.
    - 2013 - tranny has a recent fluid change, filter replacement and new gasket.
    - 2013 - new driveshaft U-joints
    - 2013 - new bilstein front and rear heavy duty shocks
    - 2013 - new bushings in front sway bar
    - 2013 - new rear sway bar
    - 2013 - new super steer track bar
    - Dual front steering stabilizers
    - Spring 2015 - New AC pump
    - Spring 2015 - Fresh oil change, oil filter and fuel filter



    Links to all the parts I've used.

    Car Audio:

    Clarion XC1410 4-Channel Amplifier: http://amzn.to/1Id8kWg
    Alpine MRV M500 Sub amp: http://amzn.to/1Id83mq
    American International Single-din kit: http://amzn.to/1Id87Cy
    Metra Wiring Harness: http://amzn.to/1PQLJBA
    Metra speaker adapter: http://amzn.to/1Id8dKi
    (2) JBL GTO8628 6x8 speakers: http://amzn.to/1PQMSsQ
    Alpine CDE-HD148BT head unit: http://amzn.to/1Id8ehn
    Stinger 12 GA speaker wire: http://amzn.to/1Id8iha
    Scoche Sub Box: http://amzn.to/1Id8ixO
    Alpine SWS10D4 Subwoofer: http://amzn.to/1PQM5bj
    4 Gauge Amp Installation Kit: http://amzn.to/1Id8o8z
    8 Gauge Amp Installation Kit: http://amzn.to/1PQMgU1
    RCA Cables (not what I used, but close): http://amzn.to/1PQMcDL



    Axle Rebuild Stuff:

    (2) Moog K80026 Ball Joint: http://amzn.to/1Id8woy
    (2) Moog K8607T Ball Joint: http://amzn.to/1PQMrPc
    (2) Spicer SPL55-3X U-Joint Kit: http://amzn.to/1Id8zRa
    Axle Shaft Seal Installer: http://amzn.to/1Id8FIx
    Wagner Severe Duty SX75Disc Pad Set: http://amzn.to/1PQMqL9
    (2) SKF 28600 Axle Shaft Seal: http://amzn.to/1Id8IUG
    (2) National 710492 Oil Seal: http://amzn.to/1PQMzy6
    (2) National 710413 Oil Seal: http://amzn.to/1Id8HjO
    (2) Timken SP580205 Axle Bearing and Hub Assembly: http://amzn.to/1PQMBpT
    (2) Centric Parts 121.65086 C-Tek Standard Brake Rotor: http://amzn.to/1PQMJpg
    (2) Ford F81Z-4A322-AA - SEALhttp://amzn.to/1PQMPgF
    Last edited by sixstringsteve; 08-07-2017 at 09:39 PM.
    1997 E350 7.3L 4x4 Van Fred - Build thread

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    After living the "American Dream" for 10 years, my wife and I realized it wasn't for us. The big house, big yard and white picket fence just didn't make us happy. The more we've been backpacking and camping, the less sense it made to pay for a house that's bigger than we need, water and mow a lawn that we never use, and keep buying stuff that still doesn't make us any happier. It was time for a change.

    In Spring of 2015, we decided that we were ready for a change. We contemplated backpacking Europe, but we realized we've hardly seen this great country, so we decided to move into an RV full-time, work from the road, and explore the great outdoors more. We're all for exotic travel, but it felt a little blasphemous to head outside this country without even scratching the surface here in the states.

    So in May we sold our 3,200 sqft house. The next three months consisted of us selling 95% of our possessions as we adopted a minimalist lifestyle. We've been shopping for RVs like crazy, and while we still haven't decided on which trailer we're going to buy, we have decided on a tow rig: an E350 Van.


    Why a van? The more we looked at RVs, the more we felt overwhelmed. When looking at airstreams, we fell in love. We started racking our brains how we could live in an airstream full-time, yet still safely carry our bikes and camping gear without it getting stolen. Then the idea hit us: a van would allow us to have a tow rig to tow the airstream, while we could also safety transport and store our bikes, camping gear, and everything else that wouldn't fit in the airstream.

    So we began the search for a good E350 7.3L diesel van.

    We had a tough time finding one, and even had an out-of-state seller set up who fell through our fingers, but the stars aligned and we recently picked up a great 97 7.3L E350. This is the story of Fred, our van.
    Last edited by sixstringsteve; 08-19-2015 at 04:29 PM.
    1997 E350 7.3L 4x4 Van Fred - Build thread

    Follow us as we pursue our dream of living on the road full-time. www.themoreweexplore.com

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    We'll be seeking sponsors for this build. The mods we go with will greatly depend on who sponsors us.

    It won't be a big build. It'll mainly be simple stuff. I've learned that the more I modify a rig, the less I enjoy it (weird, huh?).


    The goal:
    - Have a van where we can store the bikes, camping gear, and still tow a travel trailer comfortably
    - be able to break away from the "house" (travel trailer) for a few days and explore rugged terrain in the van, and use it as a small base camp
    - Keep it light, simple, and reliable, and keep MPGs high


    What it's not going to be:
    - a full-on camper. It won't have a shower, toilet or a stove.

    Exterior wish list:
    - new suspension, we hate the current suspension design
    - 400-800 watts of solar panels on the roof with a battery bank. It'd be great if the trailer could tap into these batteries too. I know nothing about solar or batteries, so I have a lot to learn.
    - My wife likes the look of the vans with the big aluminess bumpers. I'm not sure we'll go that route, but it's a possibility. After hitting a deer in my tacoma, I quickly learned the safety and cost benefits of a big front bumper. Considering all the driving we'll be doing in Idaho, Colorado, Montana, Alaska and Canada, I think some sort of bumper for deer would be beneficial. Aluminum bumpers are spendy, but I like that they're lightweight. I'd like something a little smaller and lower profile. I don't plan on running a winch.
    - better lighting up front. The stock headlights aren't amazing. I'm thinking some rigid duallies, even though these aren't legal for driving on the road. I'd love some sort of legal driving/fog lights. Light bars are cool, but I'm not sure I need one.

    Interior wish list:
    - Better stereo with backup camera. I'd love some sort of option that would let me control my phone from the touch screen, since we use Google Maps and Trimble Navigator a lot.
    - Black out panels for some of the windows (I'm thinking reflectix style so it an insulate too)
    - Super bright interior LED lights, courtesy of Airman Williams.
    - Interior bike rack to hold the 2 bikes (the whole reason we got a van in the 1st place)
    - Mount and wiring for my ARB fridge
    - captains chairs behind the front 2 seats. Swivel sequoia recliners? Is that even possible?
    - Some sort of track system on the floor. I like the aluminum track Adam has in his trailer and tacoma.
    - Some sort of cool storage solution to hold a bunch of action packers. We need an organized way to store all our outdoors gear: tents, 4 sleeping bags, packrafts, paddles, PFDs, bike gear, hiiking boots, helmets, stoves, backpacks, etc. I think action packers are the best way to keep them all organized, but I'm open to other lightweigh options. I don't want to end up adding 2000 lbs of cabinets to this rig. While it's not exactly nimble, I don't want it to be heavier than it needs to be.
    - Eventually we might put some sort of rudimentary small sleeping platform/bed inside for when we go to Alaska or Canada and leave the trailer behind.
    - Some way to black out and insulate the windows when sleeping in it. Im thinking something simple like corrugated plastic, or reflectix or something like that.
    Last edited by sixstringsteve; 08-19-2015 at 04:39 PM.
    1997 E350 7.3L 4x4 Van Fred - Build thread

    Follow us as we pursue our dream of living on the road full-time. www.themoreweexplore.com

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    Episode 1: Why a Van?


    Episode 2: Meet Fred


    Episode 3: Pre-op


    Episode 4: Work Begins


    Episode 5: The Struggle


    Episode 6: Finishing The Axle


    Episode 7: Out With the Old
    Last edited by sixstringsteve; 06-08-2016 at 03:12 PM.
    1997 E350 7.3L 4x4 Van Fred - Build thread

    Follow us as we pursue our dream of living on the road full-time. www.themoreweexplore.com

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    I will be following this closely.

    My wife and I are planning something very similar to this. Quit the rat race and explore the country for several months trying to figure out where we want to live and what we want to do with our lives.

    Right now I am trying to come up with the guts to sell my beloved Tacoma to finance a van buy.

    Good luck with your build out! Look forward to seeing what you do with it.



    Joe

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    Cool, thanks. I had to sell a lot of things I love (including my '99 miata, my '05 4runner, and a bunch of tools) to finance this, but so far it's the best thing we've done. I recommend our playlist on minimalism for some motivation.
    1997 E350 7.3L 4x4 Van Fred - Build thread

    Follow us as we pursue our dream of living on the road full-time. www.themoreweexplore.com

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    Very Cool! Subscribed to this thread, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it progresses, as I will hopefully be in this position in a few years. Good luck and happy travels!!!
    Adventurer in training

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    Congrats on the van, Man! Definitely convert that front end to the UJOR setup. You will absolutely not regret the money spent! I recommend doing the high steer upgrade as well, maybe track bar too depending on what you have going on in there now. Post some detailed pics of the front suspension components so we can help you spend your money, I mean, sort out your rig.

    You have probably already seen this thread, but here's the link anyway. http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...o-Sienna-seats Seats and swivels and cargo tiedown rails galore!

    And this too... http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...52#post1883152 Lots of possibilities for lightweight storage and sleeping.

    Brad

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    Also, for headlights, check out the (expensive) DOT approved LED headlights from Trucklites. They're around $360 a pair, but they're DOT legal, and plug-and-play.
    I'm saving for a set...

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