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dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
Nice :) Yes good to know, I just had a lot of trouble finding anything XL in Ti that wasn't custom.. I'm 6'5 but 6'1 to 6'4 doesn't seem that odd (but those guys could fit on a 20" bike anyway)... I heard lots of rumors about it being "too soft" I guess.. You are probably right, I too would love one in a hard tail.. The guy on the Moots I was riding with, his weighed in at 19 lbs. But his frame was more than my whole bike, and mine was only 23lbs... So he paid $2-$3K for 3-4 lbs :) ... The Moots with the Ventana rear stays look nice...

I have been riding with quite a few guys on their Ventanas, guys I really trust who have a lot of years of experience, seem to be real dialed from first hand experience what is or isn't that good or bad... The Moots are nice but I am pushing more into the AM riding that I enjoy more, stuff that really shakes a lot of people bones including mine previously trying to keep up on the hardtail)... To date I've hardly been a full sus guy too, all I own are hard tails currently, 4 of them, the newest is that full rigid.. :) That said again psyched for the full sus, it will be my one bling, my one splurge for some time, I figure the technology isn't going to change to much other than little stupid stuff (headset diameter ::rolleyes: ) but should be pretty solid. So with luck ride this to the grave, assuming I got all my math right and it really will fit me well... Anywhoo, rambling away... :)

Also you guys might know Kavic... He's down in Arizona doing land cruiser stuff. Here is a link to some of the stuff he did when he was still doing frames:
http://www.tsunamirock.com/images/server_host/proto/proto.htm This is his site now...
http://www.kavikoffroad.com/


And here is killer older thread from this site, "bike porn" :)
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8873&highlight=porn
 
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dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
Well I'm all "bike shop'd out" but truth is Flounder has way more credential than I, I've only been at it a couple years now at most and truthfully am just learning... So I defer to Flounder and the Ti discussion certainly makes sense. There are indeed some killer steel alloys, some of which I've learned quite a bit about in the last couple months in particular... :) I am way into fab stuff mostly from Land Cruisers. Some day if I have time and it really becomes a central part of my life I would love to get into frame building maybe later in life... For now, I am just psyched to just ride, which is the best way to do it of course :)
 
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Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
Kermit said:
I was just riding along...
When I was working in a shop years ago, some Mountain Dew drinking rad-ster brought in his bike in mangled pieces. Before I could say a word he said, "this was no JRA......"

Finally...a little honesty!!!!!
 

gearguywb

Explorer
Ref the Moots 29er...I have been riding a MootoX YBB for about a year and really love it! If you are going the '9er route then make sure you spend the coin on good wheels. On a 29 it makes a heck of a difference.

I also have a Turner Sultan (29er), great ride but not the all-arounder that the Moots is.
 

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
x2 on good 29er wheels as well, they flex a lot more... This guy does really good work www.lacemine29.com I hear but is expensive... I am building a set with Hope hubs currently, sort of like the poor man's Chris King hubs :)
 

gearguywb

Explorer
If you are going to drop the coin on good wheels, I have had great luck with I9's. Built in Asheville, lots of choices with regard to rims, etc. I have a couple sets of 29er wheels from them, with Stan's Arch and a set of Bontrager Duster, both running tubeless. Great wheels, lateraly stiff and pretty light.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
While we're on the subject of wheels, everyone always seems quick to point out the importance of rims but skips over hubs. Stiff wheels start from the hub outward, which is why even track wheels from 40 years ago had large flanges. Today, the flange insn't such a big deal but the axle and hub body have a lot to do with hub stiffness. I tend to favor Chris King hubs, but also use Phil Wood and White Industry hubs. All seem to have increased stiffness.
 

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
gearguywb said:
If you are going to drop the coin on good wheels, I have had great luck with I9's. Built in Asheville, lots of choices with regard to rims, etc. I have a couple sets of 29er wheels from them, with Stan's Arch and a set of Bontrager Duster, both running tubeless. Great wheels, lateraly stiff and pretty light.

Out of curiousity what route did you go to get your dusters tubeless? I have a set but hear Bontrager doesn't have their kit out... A Stan's kit? Interesting that you would string up a set of these with the I-9s. The I-9's are so bling and the Duster is well designed but seems like an odd match quality wise I suppose (though I really have nothing to complain about personally)....

On my 29er Rigid, I ordered up another White Brothers fork for it yesterday...
 

gearguywb

Explorer
dieselcruiserhead said:
Out of curiousity what route did you go to get your dusters tubeless? I have a set but hear Bontrager doesn't have their kit out... A Stan's kit? Interesting that you would string up a set of these with the I-9s. The I-9's are so bling and the Duster is well designed but seems like an odd match quality wise I suppose (though I really have nothing to complain about personally)....

On my 29er Rigid, I ordered up another White Brothers fork for it yesterday...

I just used the wide yellow tape from stans and some sealant...works fine.
 

Pokey

Adventurer
I-9s- no good for bigger (200lb+ guys).

Same with Tune Hubs

If you are over 200lbs--stick with CK or DT.
 

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