Thread: Sawtooth XL Build

  1. #191
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    Actually, I think this IS one of the best looking best examples of a teardrop build. Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by stomperxj View Post
    It looks awesome behind your Subie wagon. You did a fantastic job on your build Dan-
    Thank you, Jess, we really enjoy it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by borison View Post
    Actually, I think this IS one of the best looking best examples of a teardrop build. Well done
    Thank you very much! Building it was, all in all, a very good experience. Of course, it's never really done . . .
    2013 BMW R1200GS Adventure
    2008 Subaru Outback 3.0R
    Sawtooth XL http://forum.expeditionportal.com/th...light=sawtooth
    1980 BMW R80/7

    "If you think adventure is dangerous, try routine; it's lethal." - Paul Coelho

  4. #194
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    I have been following your build this last year as I am hoping to dive into a sawtooth build this spring. The one thing I am wondering is it actually worth routering out the walls for the 1/2" of foam insulation in a few spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keane View Post
    I have been following your build this last year as I am hoping to dive into a sawtooth build this spring. The one thing I am wondering is it actually worth routering out the walls for the 1/2" of foam insulation in a few spots.
    That is a good question, and I don't have a definitive answer. Structurally I believe you will be okay, especially if (1) you leave at least 1/4" of the exterior skin, (2) you use fiberglass tape and epoxy to strengthen the wall-to-roof/floor joints, and (3) don't overload the roof. I doubt that you will get much insulation value, however. I believe Jess Neal (stomperxj on this forum) did it on his original build, and you can ask him directly.

    I think if you want to insulate for comfort from cold, insulate the floor, if from heat, the roof. I decided that I'm trying to avoid rain mostly, and did not insulate at all. For cold weather camping, I use Thermarest pads under a queen-size memory foam mattress topper and my cold weather sleeping bags. I also carry two lightweight down quilts to throw over the top. With that and a stocking cap I am snugly warm to 15-20 degrees.

    If it is hot, I sit outside under an awning and wait for it to cool down. Then I open the side windows for cross ventilation (both are screened) and turn on the roof vent to blow down on me. That has always been enough so far.

    I look forward to seeing your build here!
    2013 BMW R1200GS Adventure
    2008 Subaru Outback 3.0R
    Sawtooth XL http://forum.expeditionportal.com/th...light=sawtooth
    1980 BMW R80/7

    "If you think adventure is dangerous, try routine; it's lethal." - Paul Coelho

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    Quote Originally Posted by keane View Post
    I have been following your build this last year as I am hoping to dive into a sawtooth build this spring. The one thing I am wondering is it actually worth routering out the walls for the 1/2" of foam insulation in a few spots.
    It didn't make a bit of difference in the walls and was a waste of time on the prototype so I deleted that out of the plans. There is still room to insulate the roof and if you use a good thick mattress that will help insulate the floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stomperxj View Post
    . . . if you use a good thick mattress that will help insulate the floor.
    That's the way I chose to go, but I admit I have been thinking about gluing 2" of foam to the bottom of the floor between the frame rails and then riveting on a sheet of galvanized metal (or maybe using some of the 3M tape that I mistrust) to deflect rocks and the like. I dunno. I like to have access to the wiring harness, even though it runs through a conduit. But it is an option to consider.
    2013 BMW R1200GS Adventure
    2008 Subaru Outback 3.0R
    Sawtooth XL http://forum.expeditionportal.com/th...light=sawtooth
    1980 BMW R80/7

    "If you think adventure is dangerous, try routine; it's lethal." - Paul Coelho

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanCooper View Post
    That's the way I chose to go, but I admit I have been thinking about gluing 2" of foam to the bottom of the floor between the frame rails and then riveting on a sheet of galvanized metal (or maybe using some of the 3M tape that I mistrust) to deflect rocks and the like. I dunno. I like to have access to the wiring harness, even though it runs through a conduit. But it is an option to consider.
    That would actually be a slam dunk to use 2" rigid foam and some sheet metal to protect it. Good idea Dan

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    Thank you for the feed back. I will defiantly be using 2" rigid insulation under the floor and protected with sheet metal. Also for the cold camping I use sheep skins under us. It works very well in our tent and canned ham trailer.

    And stomperxj, I will hopefully be talking to you in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keane View Post
    And stomperxj, I will hopefully be talking to you in the spring.
    Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions. PM or email me so we don't muck up Dan's thread

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