I agree sacrilege. But I found my riding ability which is decent on the manual was even better on the auto. I could put all my skill/effort into riding and zero attention on the shifting, it took a big mind shift to get use to it. But that riding was all complex heavy traffic riding which really rewarded having the clumsy cvt which wasnt really half bad with that power plant. My trail riding experience has been all good with the MT but its all on small light bikes. I can see how good AT on challenging trail would pay dividens pretty quickly. Assuming they hold up?