Coachgeo
Explorer
Throwing some ideas out for ya'lls input.
Ideas based on desire to fulfill following concepts:
1. lesson degree of cab crush in roll over or Flop. Like my cranium and that of my passenger(s)
2. lower overall cost
3. Low overall height to increase adventure opportunities in wooded areas
4. Lower overall construction complexity
5. Keep it usable as a TRUCK.
I've got a start of a ROP behind the cab FWIW
For camper box was originally thinking Hi-Lo trailer like others have done but that would require heavy cage construction to meet #1 and defeats #4 so now thinking military shelters that have a strong structure that will "help" keep cab from crushing in a roll. an S280 though defeats #3 SOUNDLY. They are over 7' tall. The others are better height (Almost 6' though I'd rather 5'ish) yet they are too short in length... unless ....hmmm.... if one was too double up?
so here is my thoughts now..... too go MODULAR you might say and double up.
SUPER insulate cab. Lowers cost of AC/heat also. install fold out sleep space in Cab. Important to fulfilling all sections 1-4. something like Fold down bunk over cab seats like in RV's. Makes more since after reading below
Just a lumber rack lke thing over portion of bed or chassis now works instead of heavy cage. Acts as supports for Solar panels and to be supports for Tarp top to cover bed when all Expo gear is removed. Helps with fullfilling #5 for used as a good ol' truck is what most of it's use will be!
S250(s) One Military Shelter sitting sideways on bed. Space beyond that on bed (5 feet or so) would be for:
1. Toys (motorcycle, ATV etc.)*
.. and/or
2. onboard fuel production module (WVO, Waste Engine oil, Plastic Pyrolysis etc. that would be mixed with diesel when possible).
.. or
3. Second S250. Two 250's give overall camper length of 13ish feet. S250 design sitting sideways at rear on bed keeps Departure Angle in a Sweet spot.
.....A. First S250 built would be WET unit. Kitchen, Bath, Restroom, Living/office/Lounge. NO BED. Yes. Very Cramped. Hence the fold out cab sleeping space mentioned earlier. Appliances will also be modular though. Kitchen/cooking surface moved out onto deck has lots of advantages space/ smells/ heat etc. (Deck- Bed sides lowered out to horizontal plus a little fabrication to extend this area further.)
.....B. Second 250 built later would be DRY unit and absorb some of A's duties. It would become the sleeping area and office/lounge space.
Later the building of:
1. Trailer for hauling of Toys and Fuel production Module . Also increased storage of un-refined fuel sources and refined as well. Heck maybe even an inflatable boat
or jetski? This opens opportunity of long extended travil AND...... when not used for that trailer can be used to haul tractor or car or a MOBILE SHOP BOX. Then again maybe shop box should sit on it's own trailer. Won't be taking that offroad. Just used at home, work, friends place etc.
A. Mobile Shop Box. I already have a large box off of a moving truck that can create this from. So with this in mind will build smaller shop/garage at home than previously planed (don't have one at all now) and incorporate the mobile shop into it. Two birds one stone.
Going modular allows to start with one portion of camper (WET) and when completed can use rig on adventures. Then time can be taken to save money for DRY's construction. Less down time, more fun time.
Going Modular also allows for:
1. adapt for trip at hand. Short trip won't need DRY S250 or Fuel production Module. Better MPG than bringing everything.
2. only need to heat/AC area in use instead of typical complete camper box. Such as in winter turn WET unit's heat down enough to keep water from freezing and turn heat up to comfort in DRY unit sleeping area. You get the idea.
3. whole thing more easily updated/redone as new ideas/resources come around.
Lot to be worked out such as:
1. how best to remove modules (S250's) working around Bed Rack.
2. Where to put spare tire. Sort of a ROP; built by previous owner sits there.
3. passage between boxes..... or maybe not even doing so. Open a door...... walk few steps.. open next door. It's really not that hard. Butt..... when your naked, at a campground, and it's not a nudist resort lol. Or it's snowing, raining etc.
* I consider an alternative mode of transportation a MUST since most time I'll be alone and not with a group. Break down would mean long *** walk. So want bicycle, motorcycle orr??? Anyway.
Ideas based on desire to fulfill following concepts:
1. lesson degree of cab crush in roll over or Flop. Like my cranium and that of my passenger(s)
2. lower overall cost
3. Low overall height to increase adventure opportunities in wooded areas
4. Lower overall construction complexity
5. Keep it usable as a TRUCK.
I've got a start of a ROP behind the cab FWIW
For camper box was originally thinking Hi-Lo trailer like others have done but that would require heavy cage construction to meet #1 and defeats #4 so now thinking military shelters that have a strong structure that will "help" keep cab from crushing in a roll. an S280 though defeats #3 SOUNDLY. They are over 7' tall. The others are better height (Almost 6' though I'd rather 5'ish) yet they are too short in length... unless ....hmmm.... if one was too double up?
so here is my thoughts now..... too go MODULAR you might say and double up.
SUPER insulate cab. Lowers cost of AC/heat also. install fold out sleep space in Cab. Important to fulfilling all sections 1-4. something like Fold down bunk over cab seats like in RV's. Makes more since after reading below
Just a lumber rack lke thing over portion of bed or chassis now works instead of heavy cage. Acts as supports for Solar panels and to be supports for Tarp top to cover bed when all Expo gear is removed. Helps with fullfilling #5 for used as a good ol' truck is what most of it's use will be!
S250(s) One Military Shelter sitting sideways on bed. Space beyond that on bed (5 feet or so) would be for:
1. Toys (motorcycle, ATV etc.)*
.. and/or
2. onboard fuel production module (WVO, Waste Engine oil, Plastic Pyrolysis etc. that would be mixed with diesel when possible).
.. or
3. Second S250. Two 250's give overall camper length of 13ish feet. S250 design sitting sideways at rear on bed keeps Departure Angle in a Sweet spot.
.....A. First S250 built would be WET unit. Kitchen, Bath, Restroom, Living/office/Lounge. NO BED. Yes. Very Cramped. Hence the fold out cab sleeping space mentioned earlier. Appliances will also be modular though. Kitchen/cooking surface moved out onto deck has lots of advantages space/ smells/ heat etc. (Deck- Bed sides lowered out to horizontal plus a little fabrication to extend this area further.)
.....B. Second 250 built later would be DRY unit and absorb some of A's duties. It would become the sleeping area and office/lounge space.
Later the building of:
1. Trailer for hauling of Toys and Fuel production Module . Also increased storage of un-refined fuel sources and refined as well. Heck maybe even an inflatable boat
or jetski? This opens opportunity of long extended travil AND...... when not used for that trailer can be used to haul tractor or car or a MOBILE SHOP BOX. Then again maybe shop box should sit on it's own trailer. Won't be taking that offroad. Just used at home, work, friends place etc. A. Mobile Shop Box. I already have a large box off of a moving truck that can create this from. So with this in mind will build smaller shop/garage at home than previously planed (don't have one at all now) and incorporate the mobile shop into it. Two birds one stone.
Going modular allows to start with one portion of camper (WET) and when completed can use rig on adventures. Then time can be taken to save money for DRY's construction. Less down time, more fun time.
Going Modular also allows for:
1. adapt for trip at hand. Short trip won't need DRY S250 or Fuel production Module. Better MPG than bringing everything.
2. only need to heat/AC area in use instead of typical complete camper box. Such as in winter turn WET unit's heat down enough to keep water from freezing and turn heat up to comfort in DRY unit sleeping area. You get the idea.
3. whole thing more easily updated/redone as new ideas/resources come around.
Lot to be worked out such as:
1. how best to remove modules (S250's) working around Bed Rack.
2. Where to put spare tire. Sort of a ROP; built by previous owner sits there.
3. passage between boxes..... or maybe not even doing so. Open a door...... walk few steps.. open next door. It's really not that hard. Butt..... when your naked, at a campground, and it's not a nudist resort lol. Or it's snowing, raining etc.
* I consider an alternative mode of transportation a MUST since most time I'll be alone and not with a group. Break down would mean long *** walk. So want bicycle, motorcycle orr??? Anyway.
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