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Thread: 1997 Cherokee XJ "GROOT" Overland Build

  1. #91
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    With a 3,000 mile trip around the corner, my wife insisted on some good tunes since the last head-unit shorted out last week. I found this Pyle PLMRB29B unit on sale on Amazon for $44. It's a marine unit so it's water-resistant and lightweight. - No CD, but who uses CD's anymore? It has Bluetooth streaming, a built-in mic for hands-free calling, an SD-card reader, a charging USB port, AM/FM receiver, and output is rated at 300w. Along with the four Pioneer speakers I picked up for another $40, the sound is very clear.

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    There's been a slew of deliveries this week, so I have a busy weekend ahead of me. I'll arrange everything and post a picture of all the parts and gear later. - Nothing big, but mostly essential for the trip we're about to take.
    Last edited by Se7en62; 08-10-2017 at 03:43 PM.
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  2. #92
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    A bunch more maintenance, recovery, and prep gear showed up this week. This weekend will be nice and productive! - Not pictured are the parts for my rear disc brake conversion, Trasharoo, and Viair 88p.

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    Last edited by Se7en62; 08-11-2017 at 03:32 PM.
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  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Se7en62 View Post
    I've read that before too. So the Liberty's passenger side cable worked for you?
    with two modifications:
    1. the cable was routed and tied to the bottom of the vehicle instead of tracing along the top of the axle
    2. the cable ends for the WJ driver side and KJ passenger side at the tensioner were not the same length, so I used a large crimping tool and cable sleeves

    pic on a ford, to show how my bracket looked with different length cables, so only 1 e-brake would engage


    some people just loop the cable on itself and use a tiny u-bolt


    I used something like THIS and crimpable cable sleeves to remake one of the cable ends the correct length:

  4. #94
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    Today I was able to get the ignition system all sorted. Removing that factory coil was a PITA and took me a lot longer than it should have because I was unorganized when I started.

    Regardless, I swapped out the Ignition Coil, the Distributor Cap, Rotor, and Wires. I didn't need to mess with the plugs, since I just installed them 500 miles ago.

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    Accel Rotor next to OEM Rotor



    Finished job, showing which wires I used. Taylor 8mm Spiro-Pro - Lime Green



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  5. #95
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    [08-13-17] After another 4.5 hours, I managed to convert my Chrysler 8.25 rear axle to disc brakes using KJ Liberty studs, backing plate, and calipers. All that's left is to hookup the parking brake cables and tie in the brake hoses. Luckily, the factory XJ parking brake cables will work.

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    [08-16-17] Now, with 2 DAYS LEFT it's a mad-dash at the house each evening. - The Jeep is REAL close to being ready for our 3,000 mile trip through TX, NM, CO, and WY.

    This last weekend, I was also able finish staining, carpeting, and installing the rear shelf system. To test out the fit and finish, I tossed in a couple of Pelican cases and my RTIC cooler to see how everything rides. The only rattle I could hear was the Coleman stove, but i'll stick a rag in between the rack and the lid to quiet that.

    Thanks to work, yesterday evening was able to sneak up on me and I was only able to install the CB system.

    Tonight I have to finish hooking up the rear parking brake and caliper hoses. I'll try to get some photos, but I have a few more items to tackle, so time is really limited.

    • CHECK Connect rear brake hoses including trimming and re-flanging the hard lines to shorten them. (Wed. Night)
    • CHECK Connect parking brake cables to KJ parking brake levers and adjust the parking brake. (Wed. Night)
    • CHECK Lift the front end and perform a basic alignment. (Wed. Night)
    • CHECK Install Front D-Ring Recovery Points (Wed. Night)
    • Re-align steering wheel (Wed. After)
    • Fix windshield washer sprayers - Fuse, Clog, Pump. (Thurs. Afternoon)
    • Remove and replace steering wheel (Thurs. Afternoon)
    • CHECK Stow Hi-Lift (Thurs. Afternoon)
    • CHECK Check fluids (Thurs. Afternoon)
    • CHECK Check tire pressures (Thurs. Afternoon)
    • If time allows - Mask, Sand, and Paint the lower 10" of the doors and sills and reinstall the door sill panel. (Thurs. Afternoon)
    Last edited by Se7en62; 09-01-2017 at 01:04 PM.
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  6. #96
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    I'm at a loss for words right now - Contemplating how in the world to recap the adventure this thing took us on...It was flawless. The Jeep performed over 2,000 highway miles and over 700 miles of offroad trails through Colorado from Four Corners, NM to Savery, WY. This route was the 2017 Colorado BDR, but we adjusted to include Imogene Pass, instead of Ophir and then detoured over Hancock Pass, instead of Hwy 50.

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    Last edited by Se7en62; 09-28-2017 at 08:22 PM.
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  7. #97
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    Looks like a great trip -- can't wait to read about it

    So after 3000 miles, I have to ask about your axle gearing -- do you need or want to change from 3.73?

  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyopp View Post
    Looks like a great trip -- can't wait to read about it

    So after 3000 miles, I have to ask about your axle gearing -- do you need or want to change from 3.73?
    We actually ran the entire trip with the factory 3.07's, as I ran out of time to get the axle swaps done beforehand. They did surprisingly well. - It's a manual though, so I can feather the clutch a little down low in 1st to help it get moving.

    That said, I do plan to complete the axle swaps front and rear soon. The front is a Dana 30 LP from a ZJ (Grand Cherokee) and the rear is a Ford 8.8 w/ LSD from an Eddie Bauer Explorer. Both of which come with 3.73's. I'm doing a simple build with new seals, bearings, and differential covers for each.

    After that, I can't imagine I'll be able to convince myself the cost/benefits of 4.11's over the 3.73's.
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  9. #99
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    Id be looking for an HP if you can...
    2001 XJ: 4" lift, 31s, armored, roofracked, WickedBilt LED lighting, aiming for adventure
    1948 Sears and Roebuck trailer project

  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Se7en62 View Post

    After that, I can't imagine I'll be able to convince myself the cost/benefits of 4.11's over the 3.73's.
    That would be a hard sell -- Only way I think it would benefit is if you where heavy rock crawling - then maybe 4.56 would be the better option

    At some point we have to keep in mind the rpm's and fuel economy, still need to do 80 on the freeway just to keep up

    From 3.07 I might go 4.11 but from 3.73, I'd stay right there unless there was some huge issue that showed up

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