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    120mm full suspension 27.5+ that can also take 29er and 26 fat wheels. I have a Bucksaw, and it is near perfect except that a touch more travel (120 vs current 100) would be nice. I think there are a few bike like this on the market now. Lenz/Trek/Spec maybe? Right now I am really smitten by 27.5+, because it has 85% of the benefits of full fat in a lighter, more compact package.

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    Last summer I attended a 3 day media event with a ride day hosted by Scott Bikes at the Deer Valley Mountain park. If you've never been, it's killer, with huge burms, kickers, and terrain perfectly suited to a medium to long travel full susser on 2.4 or larger tires, particularly given the dust-on-crust conditions that day. But...I was handed a beautiful bike worth probably $11,000 that had no business on those trails. An XC race pony with 2.3 low profile tires and 120mm of stiff-legged suspension, it was terrifying to ride. I do think my skills got better that day, but sheesh. It was a perfect example of right bike--wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    120mm full suspension 27.5+ that can also take 29er and 26 fat wheels. I have a Bucksaw, and it is near perfect except that a touch more travel (120 vs current 100) would be nice. I think there are a few bike like this on the market now. Lenz/Trek/Spec maybe? Right now I am really smitten by 27.5+, because it has 85% of the benefits of full fat in a lighter, more compact package.
    +1

    I have had everything from folding bikes to freeride bikes and currently have a Ventana El Gordo. I'm hoping Ventana will come out with a full suspension fat bike.

    Or have a bike for every riding condition.

    Wes

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    Quote Originally Posted by kojackJKU View Post
    I have the real correct answer....BUY ALL OF THEM! ha ha.
    I have often said that if I came into silly money (millions and millions, hold pinky to mouth). I would wake up a week later with hundreds of bikes, wondering how it happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njtacoma View Post
    I have often said that if I came into silly money (millions and millions, hold pinky to mouth). I would wake up a week later with hundreds of bikes, wondering how it happened.
    ME too....and about the same amount of motorcycles!
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    There have been ample times when my fleet of bikes has included up to 6-8 current model, premium bikes of various formats. The reality is, even in those situations I tend to still grab the same bike or two, maybe a third now and then. It's a romantic notion to be spoiled for choice, but I think once you settle into a bike you like, it's really all you need.
    Bicycles rule.

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    Ha ha....Like guitars Christophe, I have about 30 now....I want 30 bikes and 30 motorcycles and 30 vehicles...ha ha!
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    I am 54 yrs old now. I still ride, just not so much as I used to. Me & the wife both have mens GT Transio 3.0 now. Got rid of the MT bikes. But now bikes are like everything else, just too darn many choices. It truly IS daunting, to pick or buy a bike today. When I was little, I distinctly remember going to buy my first pair of sneakers. There were only 3 kinds to choose from: Converse, Nike or PJ Flyers (the drug store no name el cheapo's). Thats it. Pick one. Easy peasy. Not much is like that anymore. I see it every single time I go to ANY store. People, standing there in total confusion, because there are too many choices. Has anyone looked at shotguns lately ? OMG ! You used to be able to buy one shotgun that would shoot bird shot, buck shot or the cheap $5/box deer slugs. Now, the ONLY way you can get one to shoot all of those is to buy a "tactical shotgun" & anything that is quality, black in color & tactical, is over $600. Every single year that I have been hunting since I got a "tactical" shotgun, the Dept of Environmental Conservation Officers have always stopped me & gave me a stupid look & asked "why do you hunt deer with a tactical shotgun ?" I reply: "because it is the only thing that will shoot bird shot, buck shot & the $5/box cheap deer slugs, with no choke & the same barrel. I was in HD the other day for an hour. When I walked in, there was an older guy looking at screws. When I left, he was still there, in the same isle. I laughed as I walked by & said "too many choices huh ? " He said, man you ain't kidding ! LOL

    I never thought I would live long enough to see TV's that are too big, stereo speakers get so small & still sound good, vehicle lights that are too bright & just too darn many choices ! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH----I have become my parents ! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinStick View Post
    I am 54 yrs old now. I still ride, just not so much as I used to. Me & the wife both have mens GT Transio 3.0 now. Got rid of the MT bikes. But now bikes are like everything else, just too darn many choices. It truly IS daunting, to pick or buy a bike today. When I was little, I distinctly remember going to buy my first pair of sneakers. There were only 3 kinds to choose from: Converse, Nike or PJ Flyers (the drug store no name el cheapo's). Thats it. Pick one. Easy peasy. Not much is like that anymore. I see it every single time I go to ANY store. People, standing there in total confusion, because there are too many choices. Has anyone looked at shotguns lately ? OMG ! You used to be able to buy one shotgun that would shoot bird shot, buck shot or the cheap $5/box deer slugs. Now, the ONLY way you can get one to shoot all of those is to buy a "tactical shotgun" & anything that is quality, black in color & tactical, is over $600. Every single year that I have been hunting since I got a "tactical" shotgun, the Dept of Environmental Conservation Officers have always stopped me & gave me a stupid look & asked "why do you hunt deer with a tactical shotgun ?" I reply: "because it is the only thing that will shoot bird shot, buck shot & the $5/box cheap deer slugs, with no choke & the same barrel. I was in HD the other day for an hour. When I walked in, there was an older guy looking at screws. When I left, he was still there, in the same isle. I laughed as I walked by & said "too many choices huh ? " He said, man you ain't kidding ! LOL

    I never thought I would live long enough to see TV's that are too big, stereo speakers get so small & still sound good, vehicle lights that are too bright & just too darn many choices ! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH----I have become my parents ! LOL
    I don't know....since I'd consider myself a bike geek, I love all the choices we have. It probably all depends on your level of familiarity in cycling gear, but even if you aren't, you really CAN'T go wrong when picking a bike in the genre you desire. And even mixed genre-- i.e. You want a fast road bike that you can take on dirt roads? Trek Domane, Salsa Colossal, and even a number of CX bikes will fit the job. A dirt road tour that you can also shred singletracks? Diamondback Haanjo, Salsa Warbird, etc. There are a LOT of choices, but you'd really have to try to pick the wrong bike.

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    Thanks for all of the feedback and advice. I'm starting to sort things out and getting ready to buy a new bike. My budget is tight. I'm selling both of my single speeds to get a bike with a derailleur. I can't afford full suspension now. I've narrowed my choices to three bikes. Niner EMD 29er, Salsa Timberjack 27+, or the Cannondale Cujo 2, 27+. The Timberjack is more than I'd like to spend. I love Salsa's bikes, but can't swing it now. The Cujo and EMD are within my budget. So the question is 29er vs 27+. Geometry is pretty different on each bike. Test rides are not an option. Local shops do not have either bike in stock so I'd have to order it.

    The trails here are pretty rugged so I like the idea of 27.5x3 tires.

    Thoughts?

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