FlipPac Hinge Broke - Solutions?

mattsavage

Observer
Wow. Quite an operation. I finally got to fixing mine and had a hard time getting the broken hinge (driver side, top (lid of FlipPac) out. I found a video online of someone hammering it out from the far end of the lid by drilling a hole and inserting a long piece of rebar. Ended up having to weld the female spline end to a new bar. All seems to have worked but I don't know how to reinstall the torsion bar. I thought putting it vertical is the proper thing to do but with three of us doing it, we had trouble getting it to vertical and hammering the bar in place. I still have not done it. Should I put the lid vertical and hammer it in? Do I need to build scaffolding? Pure genius on using scissor jacks to hold in place!


That video of the guy hammering out from the back end was completely wrong, FYI... Itwas because he thought the entire thing was seized,rusted in, but in reality he forgot to remove one of the bolts holding them in. There should be 3 bolts, he undid two...
 

mtnbike28

Expedition Leader
That video of the guy hammering out from the back end was completely wrong, FYI... Itwas because he thought the entire thing was seized,rusted in, but in reality he forgot to remove one of the bolts holding them in. There should be 3 bolts, he undid two...
Yep that was me! I was an idiot, but it worked ; )
 

jrring

New member
It's long and tedious, but the rotted hinge can be repaired. I removed mine and had a welder/fabricator friend repair it. I had to remove the top flip part, remove all the fabric from it, and laid it on saw horses in my shop. I was able to remove the broken part and then brought both peices to my buddy and he made a pretty close copy. My flip, the upper part is pretty warped on the side this broke on, I put several layers of foam tape under the weather seal to make up for it. Doesn't look the best but stays dry. Make sure you seal the hinge when you replace/repair it. It rusts out because water gets in there and stays.
 

Fitnaedal

New member
Hi, I just finished replacing the hinges on my Flippac yesterday. I was planning to write an account with photos and sources so I'll do so right here. The whole thing took most of 3 days.


I bought the hinge and torsion bar replacement kit from Sway-A-Way Torsion Bars. $771.00 including tax. They are located near Los Angeles in Chatsworth. Their web site wasn't working so I phoned them. I picked them up on will call so I can't tell you shipping costs. The new hinge parts are more robust than the originals.


I will attempt to upload all 15 images. It will be up to you to figure out the relationship between this explanation and the photos. I'm not taking the time right now to assemble it into a cohesive presentation.


The kit comes with 2 page instructions which I partially followed. It says it's easier to remove the shell from your truck first, I didn't remove mine. It says to open it to vertical, remove the torsion bar and old hinge parts, close it, replace the hinge parts, then open it to vertical again to insert the torsion bar. I opened it to vertical and kept it there for the whole procedure. With it in the vertical position I had plenty of room to work inside.


Mine, when mounted on the truck and opened to vertical, is 12 feet tall, so I had to work outdoors which meant building a jig for lifting and holding in place. The photos are mostly self explanatory but here is a partial materials list; Lumber, For the vertical portion, 2x4's, 2 @ 14', 2 @ 10', 2 @ 8'. I built the base from old lumber I had lying around, you could use narrower pieces, 2 @ 2x10x10', 2 @ 2x6x8'. Plus several scrap pieces for spacing, wedging, making a wider place for the truck tires to sit, support the 2x10 under the main vertical piece, etc. I bolted the 2x10s on top of the 2x6s then parked the truck on the 2x6s to hold down the base. I think the photos are sufficient to give an idea of how to assemble the vertical portion. You can respond with questions if you need more details. I attached pulleys to the top cross bar and cleats to the vertical pieces for the rope. I attached the top pieces and inserted the rope before lifting it into position. Without a compound pulley system I needed a helper with a pole to help push the lid up to vertical. When it was vertical I put a flat piece of ¾ ply on the roof of the cab and used a scissors jack to help support the lid keeping about half of the weight on the ropes. Once it was vertical I moved the tent catcher to the side and removed the mattress.


I had to dig a lot of caulk out of the hinge receiver holes using a sharp knife and a 90 degree dental pick. To get at the bolts that hold the hinge pieces it is necessary to unscrew the bimini struts, or tent struts, and push them to the side. After removing the hinge bolts it is fairly easy to remove the unbroken hinge halves with a hammer and block of wood. Getting out the broken hinge piece in the lid was at least an hour of banging with a drift punch, clamping with vise grips and banging on that, spraying with lubricant. I had to check frequently that the lid wasn't slipping off of the scissors jack. You can see in one of the photos that the old part was cracking in more than one place. There are also many pieces of shims of various thicknesses in the receiver tubes most of which slide right out but some needed needle nose pliers to retrieve. You won't need the shims with the new parts.


I scrubbed out the rectangular receiver tubes with a wire brush then sprayed with rust fixative and later rustoleum primer before inserting the new hinge parts. I cranked the bolts down to the recommended 40 ft/lbs then discovered that the torsion bar wouldn't quite line up. So I backed off the bolts and that enabled me to insert the torsion bar and then I retightened the bolts. It helps to twist the torsion bar just a little to get the splines to line up. I found the old hinge part a useful tool for that purpose.


The torsion bar is splined at both ends but not for the same length. I think it would have been better if I had put mine in the other way. I have the longer splines on the passenger side but it would be better if the longer splines were on the driver side. I wound up putting the keeper collar on the passenger side which is wrong according to the directions. I'll find out if the bar starts creeping out passenger side. I was tired and inserting the torsion bar was hard so I didn't reverse it.


Last step was to inject silicone caulk around the new hinges where they enter the shell.


It works fine and I'm happy with the result.
For others who may be considering a similar project, it's helpful to know that the kit comes with instructions, but you can also modify the process to work for your specific situation. Building a jig for lifting and holding the Flippac in place seems like a necessary step, especially given its height. Removing old caulk and shims can be time-consuming, but it's important to ensure a clean surface for the new parts.
 

TrillWill

New member
Hey guys, Appreciate all the info previously posted on here. I have the same problem described here with a broken drivers side hinge and have purchased the replacement hinges. I have been able to remove the 3 unbroken hinges without two much of an issue but have not been able to remove the broken one from the lid. Vise grips and a steel punch havent been able to do the job. Is there any way to access the back back or rectangular shaped side from inside the camper to punch it out from the rear? Oddly enough it appears that there are only two bolts on my lid hinge. Looked high and low for the third bolt and was able to remove the passenger side hinge without issue.
 

4x4Hoth

New member
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Hey guys, Appreciate all the info previously posted on here. I have the same problem described here with a broken drivers side hinge and have purchased the replacement hinges. I have been able to remove the 3 unbroken hinges without two much of an issue but have not been able to remove the broken one from the lid. Vise grips and a steel punch havent been able to do the job. Is there any way to access the back back or rectangular shaped side from inside the camper to punch it out from the rear? Oddly enough it appears that there are only two bolts on my lid hinge. Looked high and low for the third bolt and was able to remove the passenger side hinge without issue.
I haven’t replaced my hinges yet but there should be two bolts on the lid hinge and three on the bottom like in this photo by previous blogger
 

mtnbike28

Expedition Leader
If you decide not the drill and drive out from far end like I did, maybe drill into teh broken hinge, tap it and drive in a large bolt and use a slide hammer?
 

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