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Thread: I want an LR4 and I have a question

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    All LR4's with the V8 have high and low range center differentials. The HD package adds a rear locker.

    Beginning with the supercharged V6 (2014), not all LR4's had low range. The HD package adds both low range and a rear locker.

    The HSE package on the LR4 adds a 3rd row seat and some other luxuries, I believe.
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    Hmmmm...finding one with the factory rear diff lock is going to be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcg141 View Post
    Hmmmm...finding one with the factory rear diff lock is going to be fun.
    Aside from the joy of hunt, I'd ask if there is a significant requirement to have the locking rear dif (and if there is such a significant requirement, why not just get a good truck with the other attributes that you want and add an ARB?).

    A long way of saying the vast majority of drivers, in the vast majority of terrain, won't really find it necessary.

    My $.02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_G View Post
    Aside from the joy of hunt, I'd ask if there is a significant requirement to have the locking rear dif (and if there is such a significant requirement, why not just get a good truck with the other attributes that you want and add an ARB?).

    A long way of saying the vast majority of drivers, in the vast majority of terrain, won't really find it necessary.

    My $.02.
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    I do a significant amount of off roading. My current rig has Trutrac's front and rear that I did install. Those are actually my favorite and I realize they are LSD's and not a true locker. I get into areas with long deep rain ruts and they really help in those. I have had rigs wo them and did fine with some creative driving. There is not a lot of difference between the units I have looked at from an equipment standpoint. 11-13's all came with the 5.0 and 2 speed transfer cases as far as I can tell. If I could get one with a locker and not pay a significant amount more it would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcg141 View Post
    I do a significant amount of off roading. My current rig has Trutrac's front and rear that I did install. Those are actually my favorite and I realize they are LSD's and not a true locker. I get into areas with long deep rain ruts and they really help in those. I have had rigs wo them and did fine with some creative driving. There is not a lot of difference between the units I have looked at from an equipment standpoint. 11-13's all came with the 5.0 and 2 speed transfer cases as far as I can tell. If I could get one with a locker and not pay a significant amount more it would be nice.
    Gotcha. I assume you are running TT F/R in something like a D1? (I have a D1 with a TT rear, 4 pin up front-that likewise I installed myself).
    What you may well find, assuming you haven't spent much time wheeling the 3/4 series Discos, is that these will behave differently than a lighter truck with a traction aid. The locker could be useful, and should be incorporated into the search of course, but-in my experience-won't overcome some of the challenges that come with the weight of the truck.

    Quite frankly single biggest thing you are going to want to do, especially in a 4, is find a way to get appropriate tires on there. If we were talking LR3 I'd suggest going to far as the V6 brake swap and 17's with MTs. LR4's make that a bit more challenging since I don't think you can get there from here.

    That isn't to say that these trucks can't handle long protracted mud like where you wheel-just that in the grand scheme of things their weight will conspire and as you likely know better than I given your conditions, tires are the key along with HP to clear them. The computers of the truck will get you very close to acting like an LSD even in a non HD truck-in my experience, comparing platforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_G View Post
    Gotcha. I assume you are running TT F/R in something like a D1? (I have a D1 with a TT rear, 4 pin up front-that likewise I installed myself).
    What you may well find, assuming you haven't spent much time wheeling the 3/4 series Discos, is that these will behave differently than a lighter truck with a traction aid. The locker could be useful, and should be incorporated into the search of course, but-in my experience-won't overcome some of the challenges that come with the weight of the truck.

    Quite frankly single biggest thing you are going to want to do, especially in a 4, is find a way to get appropriate tires on there. If we were talking LR3 I'd suggest going to far as the V6 brake swap and 17's with MTs. LR4's make that a bit more challenging since I don't think you can get there from here.

    That isn't to say that these trucks can't handle long protracted mud like where you wheel-just that in the grand scheme of things their weight will conspire and as you likely know better than I given your conditions, tires are the key along with HP to clear them. The computers of the truck will get you very close to acting like an LSD even in a non HD truck-in my experience, comparing platforms.
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    I had a D1 with a rear locker. My current ride is a Jeep Liberty with lift and LSD's that I plan on keeping. I stay out of the bottomless pits around here. The rain here leaves our hill climbs with deep long blown out rain ruts that are a challenge even in dry conditions. I got to drive a LR4 and was surprised that such a capable off roader could have such nice road manners. I think its a unique vehicle in that regard.

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    It absolutely is an amazing vehicle when taken as a whole.


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    If you find a LR4 with a full size spare it should have the HD package. Most non Land Rover car dealers won't know that.
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    Not completely true about the full size spare being a give away for the HD package. Often it is can be an indication but not always.

    To find an HD package just go onto AutoTrader and in the key word section put in “HD” and “heavy duty”. Quick search just brought up 3.

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    Seems like the local Land Rover dealer offers HD equiped LR4's on a regular basis.

    Two LR4's, both with rear lockers.. One V8, one SCV6 Landmark (ouch on price but they know the market wants HD LR4's)

    Usual disclaimer ...... no financial interest in LRCS other than that is where I found my LR4. They took care of me and service is excellent. Have used them since the 90's.
    Last edited by mpinco; 01-10-2018 at 03:43 AM.

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