2005+ Dodge Power Wagon + ARB winch bar...???
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angusdevil
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The winch mounts between the frame rails so if the ARB doesn't intrude any in that area, it should fit. If the bumper mounts to directly to the frame and not the bumper brackets, it may interfer a bit with the winch mount.
The frames are the same so if it fits on a CTD or Hemi 2500, it'll fit on a PW.
Personally, I would remount the winch in the bumper to keep things clean and to keep it so that you don't have lots of loose lead between the bumper and the winch.
The frames are the same so if it fits on a CTD or Hemi 2500, it'll fit on a PW.
Personally, I would remount the winch in the bumper to keep things clean and to keep it so that you don't have lots of loose lead between the bumper and the winch.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
My opinion....
Don't add 100-200 lbs of bumper to the front of your truck...
Why. The front end will perform better with less weight. The approach angle is going to be better without it. Its 100+ pounds you have to pack around all the time no matter what.
My suggestion. Look for something lighter that tucks as close as possible to the grill while maintaining stock approach angles.
Don't add 100-200 lbs of bumper to the front of your truck...
Why. The front end will perform better with less weight. The approach angle is going to be better without it. Its 100+ pounds you have to pack around all the time no matter what.
My suggestion. Look for something lighter that tucks as close as possible to the grill while maintaining stock approach angles.
alexrex20
Explorer
That's funny coming from the guy driving the big Dodge on 500 pounds of tires.
Metcalf
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My dodge is still only 6800lbs. Cummins, shell, tires, and all.
The tires/wheels are more like 600
The front bumper was built minimally with good protection and approach angles. All the tire weight is unsprung, while not the best for go-fast, it keeps the weight down low. The tires gave the most increase in off-road performance for the change in vehicle dynamics. They gave me more clearance under the diffs and chassis, the cut fenders let me keep the suspension very close to stock.
For me, the big tire, no lift formula seems to work really well.
While all added weight is bad, and I will concede that rotating mass isn't the best place to add weight, adding a ton of weight over the top of the front suspension isn't a good idea either.
Edit: My truck isn't big, the tires are It actually sits pretty low. Even with the big tires it sits about the same or lower than a 3rd gen dodge.
The tires/wheels are more like 600
The front bumper was built minimally with good protection and approach angles. All the tire weight is unsprung, while not the best for go-fast, it keeps the weight down low. The tires gave the most increase in off-road performance for the change in vehicle dynamics. They gave me more clearance under the diffs and chassis, the cut fenders let me keep the suspension very close to stock.
For me, the big tire, no lift formula seems to work really well.
While all added weight is bad, and I will concede that rotating mass isn't the best place to add weight, adding a ton of weight over the top of the front suspension isn't a good idea either.
Edit: My truck isn't big, the tires are
It actually sits pretty low. Even with the big tires it sits about the same or lower than a 3rd gen dodge.
Rovertrader
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agree on the low/big theory. I have a 2" leveling spacer on front, Thuren links, 37's with no rubbing- except the rear which I am about to remedy with a Ute bed.
On my front bumper- a Ranch Hand- I altered the mounts to make it work, left the winch in iot's place to remain tight to the truck,aka less cantilevered weight, and added a second fairlead on the bumper. While the bumper is a bit heavy, it keeps the winch in sock location which is about 15" from the bumper face. Works great actually.
On my front bumper- a Ranch Hand- I altered the mounts to make it work, left the winch in iot's place to remain tight to the truck,aka less cantilevered weight, and added a second fairlead on the bumper. While the bumper is a bit heavy, it keeps the winch in sock location which is about 15" from the bumper face. Works great actually.
alexrex20
Explorer
My dodge is still only 6800lbs. Cummins, shell, tires, and all.
The tires/wheels are more like 600
The front bumper was built minimally with good protection and approach angles. All the tire weight is unsprung, while not the best for go-fast, it keeps the weight down low. The tires gave the most increase in off-road performance for the change in vehicle dynamics. They gave me more clearance under the diffs and chassis, the cut fenders let me keep the suspension very close to stock.
For me, the big tire, no lift formula seems to work really well.
While all added weight is bad, and I will concede that rotating mass isn't the best place to add weight, adding a ton of weight over the top of the front suspension isn't a good idea either.
Edit: My truck isn't big, the tires are
Fair enough.
I'm actually a big fan of your truck. I just chuckled a bit when you offered some "less is more" advice.
jasonL_031
Adventurer
i have one and i just moved the winch into the bumper. or you will have to run two fairleads
Rovertrader
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got the hood in route- thanks Jason
jasonL_031
Adventurer
np
ive been thinking about painting my grille. just debating on how that would look
ive been thinking about painting my grille. just debating on how that would look
In my opinion one very important feature of the ARB (or similar) is being overlooked, and is also one of its original design purposes - animal collision protection. Being able to hit a moose/deer/elk/civic etc and possibly drive away is a huge bonus in the part of the world I come from. This is why I have an ARB on my Cummins. I have read somewhere that the original, and current, ARB Roo Bars (as they are aptly called in Oz) are designed to hit a 200+lb Red Kangaroo at 100km/hr and sustain no damage. I could not find a link to this info, but I am sure I have read it many times. I have seen a lifted Tacoma with an ARB after hitting a moose at highway speed and the bumper was bent, but not much and the truck sustained very little damage! Also the ARB will offer solid recovery points, actual jacking locations and a place to hang a lot of lights.
All of that being said if you only intend the bumper to house the winch I would also recommend something lighter and more streamline with a better approach angle (leaving winch in stock location on PW).
All of that being said if you only intend the bumper to house the winch I would also recommend something lighter and more streamline with a better approach angle (leaving winch in stock location on PW).
jasonL_031
Adventurer
from arb usa
Thanks for posting this jasonL_031, it is exactly what I was getting at!
Ironically that moose was hit within a couple hundred km's of where I am located in Northern BC and there a A LOT of people here killed every year from this exact situation. I know that for me that fact I could put a winch in the ARB was just an added bonus!
Ironically that moose was hit within a couple hundred km's of where I am located in Northern BC and there a A LOT of people here killed every year from this exact situation. I know that for me that fact I could put a winch in the ARB was just an added bonus!
jasonL_031
Adventurer
yea thats why i did end up buying my arb bumper. nothing but the best for my daughter... and i have done alot of night driving from calgary to pembroke ontario on a regular basis. and i always take the norther route through ont lots of moose up there as well as other big animals.