5 day coolers?

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Scenic WonderRunner

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Flounder said:
I bought a Colemen Ultimate Extreme cooler last month. I thought I would test it. I put 4 pounds of dry ice in the bottom along with a frozen 2 liter Platypus bag filled with water I intended to drink by day 5. The cooler has been sitting on my deck with the only contents being 12 bottles of water. We're on day 7 and I think I might make it to day 8 with ice in the Platypus bag. That is pretty awesome for a $65 cooler.


Great Info......Flounder! ...........on the dry ice!


I've been wondering how that might help me.


It's all about the ice!

I use a basic cooler. The ice I use is made in my freezer in 2 quart juice bottles. I freeze them solid for days before I'm heading out on a trip. In fact.....they just sit ready to go in my freezer before I want to head out any time!

This also gives you an emergency supply of water later on if you get stuck. Very Important!

I use 6 juice bottles. Frozen solid. My food fits around them.


Get da Picture................>?!!!!

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You could Even Freeze your Juice!

I make a mental note of where all my food is, which limits the time I have to leave my cooler Open! Very Important! Do NOT.....Leave your Cooler open for longer periods of time!


Do NOT!...............just put ice cubes in your cooler! You will be very upset!


My cooler stays cold for at least 7 days and more in the winter and 5 days + in the summer. I also keep it covered in a white large towel, and also including my Mexican Blanket! Which I also use for da Beach!

I also have a curtain in the back that keeps the sun off my cooler. KEEP the SUN OFF your Cooler!


.................now go have fun!:friday: :chef:



My main cooler is the Blue and white............

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Now be sure to have your Fruits and Veggies!

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At times if I'm heading out for a day trip I will just bring my smaller cooler. And not bother to load up my larger cooler with my Juice Ice Blocks!



.................now go have fun!:friday: :chef:




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LexusAllTerrain

Expedition Leader
All this is very good information, wiy some of the great ideas, but for now I am trying the Coleman Power Chill Cooler pluged to a 12volt let's see how it works before I make an investment on the ARB Fridge!:Wow1:
 
S

Scenic WonderRunner

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eurorom said:
All this is very good information, wiy some of the great ideas, but for now I am trying the Coleman Power Chill Cooler pluged to a 12volt let's see how it works before I make an investment on the ARB Fridge!:Wow1:



I thought This Thread was about Kewlers!

........Oops! ......... Coolers!


I'm just about to Loose my Kewl!:jump:



....and I'm getting very Jumpy!



Thread HiJacking is becoming Rampant.............on ExPo!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Maybe I should just go Kruise Kraigslist for FJ80's for a while!



....and calm down!






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Honu

lost on the mainland
eurorom said:
All this is very good information, wiy some of the great ideas, but for now I am trying the Coleman Power Chill Cooler pluged to a 12volt let's see how it works before I make an investment on the ARB Fridge!:Wow1:

just remember this is like trying out a yugo to see if you like to get a Porsche :)
or trying out a 4 wheel drive mini van to decide if the MOG is as off road capable ;)

the ARB or Engel can freeze a drink or whatever solid as a rock even in my 120 degree garage :)
the other will only lower the temp a bit lower than ambient so in my case I would have about 80 degree water or food ! ;)
one thing you can do is keep frozen bottles of water in your power chill to help it out

but trust me on this the engel/Arb or National Luna or Waeco are true fridge/freezers not just a cooler :)
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Flounder said:
I bought a Colemen Ultimate Extreme cooler last month. I thought I would test it. I put 4 pounds of dry ice in the bottom along with a frozen 2 liter Platypus bag filled with water I intended to drink by day 5. The cooler has been sitting on my deck with the only contents being 12 bottles of water. We're on day 7 and I think I might make it to day 8 with ice in the Platypus bag. That is pretty awesome for a $65 cooler.
I picked up a Coleman 5 Day 52 quart to augment the Coleman Steel Belted cooler I have. Last time we did White Rim (September, it was plenty hot), I put dry ice in the Extreme with blocks of ice in the Coleman. The dry ice completely sublimated at the end of day 5, which was our last day on the trail. But this was after lots of opening and on day 3 we combined everything into the Extreme and I think the dry ice was getting wet, which will kill it in no time.

The biggest problem I have with dry ice in the 52 quart Extreme is that everything at the bottom either stays frozen or becomes frozen. It's pretty big to line the whole bottom with dry ice, which turns the whole cooler into a freezer, so using only a couple of blocks of dry ice requires creative packing to get temperatures right to avoid freezing things. We got an Engel this year finally and honestly to me for long trips I think the solution will be Engel on fridge and the Extreme with a layer of dry ice as a minimally opened deep freezer. If you only open it once a day to move stuff into the fridge, I can see it easily keeping dry ice for 2 weeks.
 

cruisertoy

Explorer
I just purchased one of Engels new "rugged" coolers. Rotationally molded with over 2" of insulation. I looked at the Yeti's and the Icee-Kool/Galaxy coolers as well. I picked the Engel up for wholesale. I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I thought about doing a little ice test outside for a week or two. My only problem with it is a chemical smell that seems to be coming from the rubber seal around the lid.
 

BC Explorer

Adventurer
My daughter and I did a 7 day excursion using a Coleman Extreme and in very high ambient temps and only used three bags of ice the whole trip. We put the ice into freezer bags and keep the melted ice for drinking. By the end of our trip I still had the third bag and very little water in the bottom of the cooler. In fact we had to go buy water because the ice was not melting fast enough.

I to want to use dry ice and was told to wrap the dry ice in lots of news paper and try putting it into a freezer bag to keep water from getting at it.
Any thoughts on that ?
 

opie

Explorer
I just picked up a Coleman Extreme Marine 70qt from Cabelas.

I figured I test out the claim of it being a 5 day cooler. Now, mind you this is not scientific. I didnt use the recommended poundage of ice per qt and the cooler was empty except for (2) 1 gallon milk jugs filled with water and frozen.

I kept the cooler in the back of my truck the entire time and the bed is rhino lined black. Daily temps got to 90+ and nightly temps didnt get below 70.

The last of the ice melted at the end of the 2nd day. Not bad. Once its stuffed full I can only imagine it will keep cold longer than 5 days in the same temp variation.
 

opie

Explorer
BC Explorer said:
My daughter and I did a 7 day excursion using a Coleman Extreme and in very high ambient temps and only used three bags of ice the whole trip. We put the ice into freezer bags and keep the melted ice for drinking. By the end of our trip I still had the third bag and very little water in the bottom of the cooler. In fact we had to go buy water because the ice was not melting fast enough.

I to want to use dry ice and was told to wrap the dry ice in lots of news paper and try putting it into a freezer bag to keep water from getting at it.
Any thoughts on that ?

I have heard you want to wrap the dry ice so it doesnt freeze whatever is next to it or touching it. I cant imagine it would hurt to put it in a freezer bag.
 

BC Explorer

Adventurer
My daughter and I have another 7 day trip starting on the 22nd of Aug. and I'm going to try the dry ice and see how that works.
I was told that 1 pound last 24hrs, is that correct ?

Just googled some info on how long for dry ice to sublimate, it said 5-10 lbs per 24 hrs.
Now how big is a 5 to 10 lb block ?
 
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BC Explorer

Adventurer
I found this bit of info which I cut pasted......

According to the facts: Dry Ice will sublimate at a rate of five to ten pounds every 24 hours in a typical ice chest

http://www.dryiceinfo.com/

For Dry Ice plan on using 5 to 10 pounds for each 24-hour period depending upon the quality of the insulated shipping container. This will keep everything frozen in a container up to 15 quarts. For larger containers and greater shipping times multiply dry ice quantities by this rate. The best shipping container is a two-inch thick urethane insulated box tested to lose only 5 pounds for a 10-quart storage volume every 24-hours. Newer materials developed for Control Temp Packaging in Norcross, GA have tested nearly the same as urethane. Less thick or efficient insulation will need more Dry Ice because it will sublime faster.

For gel packs, as a generality use one pound per cubic foot per day. (Most gel packs come in 1/2 pound size but newer ones are up to 2 pounds.) This will be last for up to three days. For a longer time Dry Ice has to be combined to extend the gel packs with the possibility of freezing the goods briefly in the beginning.

When packing items in the container put dry ice any gel packs and the product as close together as possible with the dry ice on top. Fill any empty space with wadded newspaper or Styrofoam peanuts as any "dead-air-space" will cause the Dry Ice to sublimate faster.

Dry Ice sublimation (changing from a solid to a gas) will vary depending on the outside temperature, air pressure (on an airplane with lower air pressure it will sublimate a little faster) and efficiency of the insulation. The more Dry Ice you have stored in the container, the longer it will last. Dry Ice, at -109.3°F or -78.5°C, will freeze and keep frozen everything in the container until it is completely sublimated. These frozen items will still take some extra time to thaw because they will have been so cold.

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The table below adds extra Dry Ice for heavier items because some of the Dry Ice will be used up lowering the temperature of the product to be shipped to the temperature of Dry Ice: -109.3°F.
TABLE OF AVERAGE AMOUNTS OF DRY ICE FOR PACKING FROZEN GOODS IN A SINGLE
WELL INSULATED CONTAINER


Here's the link for the chart:

http://www.dryiceinfo.com/shipping.htm

Hope it helps!
 

Honu

lost on the mainland
got back from our trip of over 2 weeks :)

had a ARB 45 and extreme cooler

next long trip ARB 45 and a Engel 60 or 80 combi :) no more icechest for that long of a trip just to much juggling for my likes
 
I currently have an Igloo 5 day cooler. It's ok at best. It does have latches, which I like, but the full opening lid leads to a lot of cold air loss. A 60/40 split lid, or a hatch type lid would be sweet.

Honu said:
Also not as cheap as coleman but Yeti coolers are very good stuff :)

YETI COOLERS

Am I the only person who thinks that this is how most coolers shoud be made?

However, I think it's crap that you have to pay so damn much for a cooler with decent (OK, great!) insulation, good latches and a good seal.

The Yeti would be what I want, Unfortunately the Coleman Ultimate Extreme is what I can afford (at the high end of the budget for me)

COLEMAN ULTIMATE EXTREME

Perhaps incorporating some latches and a thin rubber seal to the Coleman is the way to go?
 

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