Thread: Jack's 2007 Chevy Build

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    Pretty cool!!!
    Let's see the tape measure!! Did the front come out at about 3", or a little higher? You gonna look for slightly lower springs for it, or just leave it where it is?
    How much up-travel do you really have where it sits?

    Just curious how everything packages... I still can't believe they can get 4" of up-travel with only 3" of lift on the SFA conversion...

    Oh, and what did you end up doing with the CAD junk? I guess if you have a lever for 4wd, it probably doesn't care, but for push button systems, I think it wants that feedback... Worst case, I guess you could just zip tie the actuator up somewhere and let it think it's working like normal... Or is your truck lever shifted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stDeuce View Post
    Pretty cool!!!
    Let's see the tape measure!! Did the front come out at about 3", or a little higher? You gonna look for slightly lower springs for it, or just leave it where it is?
    How much up-travel do you really have where it sits?

    Just curious how everything packages... I still can't believe they can get 4" of up-travel with only 3" of lift on the SFA conversion...

    Oh, and what did you end up doing with the CAD junk? I guess if you have a lever for 4wd, it probably doesn't care, but for push button systems, I think it wants that feedback... Worst case, I guess you could just zip tie the actuator up somewhere and let it think it's working like normal... Or is your truck lever shifted?
    I will have to get my buddy over with his totally stock (right down to the 245's) 07 Classic grandpa truck that he picked up recently. That way I can get a comparison between absolutely stock versus mine now. I just got done taking it for a spin and I might have to go up in spring rate versus looking for shorter springs. The 400lbs, might be a little light with the bumper/winch I have. Tim used 500lbs when he designed the kit and he had a winch/bumper on his. I expressed my concern about the lower rated springs to WFO, but they thought that I should try it based on their valving. I will have to get it out a little bit more to confirm that, so we will see.
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    I will get a measurement in a few days. I have to dial in the ABS, which I am planning on tackling this weekend.
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    I used WFO's steering box brace which has a bracket for the actuator to screw into. The actuator just sits up there (protected) and as far as it knows, it is still activating the front axle. And as you can tell, mine is a push button system.
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    So I finally got the dually springs installed and at first, I was a little nervous as the "free" height was the same between my "hybrid" and the factory dually springs. I got them installed and the u-bolts ended up being too short. I was doing a u-bolt flip using Ruff Stuff specialties u-bolts and plates. There just wasn't enough thread engagement, so I ended up using a set of u-bolts for a 2002 F250 rear suspension. As you can see from the pictures, they ended up being about 2" of lift over my hybrid pack, which worked out perfectly and they actually ride better empty than my hybrid pack did.
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    The truck looks greatJack! Now all you need is some new meats to fill up those wheel wells. Cheers, Chilli..

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    Does look great with the rear higher!
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    Awesome!
    The measurements I was looking for were to compare to post 506, but I see that doesn't really tell you how much "lift" the kit really offers, since you were a few inches high to begin with...

    Unless the front is prone to bottoming easily over mild bumps, I would put a sway bar on before you up the spring rate... The SFA setup has a LOT less roll stiffness than the IFS did, even compared to running IFS without a sway bar... IMO (as an engineer with a vehicle dynamics background...) you're going to need a sway bar to get decent for handling, no matter how stiff you make the front springs... Without it, you'll have a truck that's very prone to oversteer in an emergency maneuver, not to mention the iffy seat of the pants feel with body roll, especially with a camper in the bed.

    Nice that the dually springs bumped it up. My first hybrid pack was really stiff too. The redux with thinner 2nd leaf is a bit better, but still pretty stiff empty, but so nice with the camper in the back that I'll suffer a little with the empty ride.

    Will you be able to trim up the inner fender liners and put them back in? I cringe at the thought of spraying salty snow mess all over the insides of the engine compartment, though in Reno, that's probably not as much a concern...

    Looking forward to your next trip report to see how it all does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by locrwln View Post
    <snip> I will have to get my buddy over with his totally stock (right down to the 245's) 07 Classic grandpa truck that he picked up recently.
    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilliwak View Post
    The truck looks greatJack! Now all you need is some new meats to fill up those wheel wells. Cheers, Chilli..
    Thank you and I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redline View Post
    Does look great with the rear higher!
    I with you on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1stDeuce View Post
    Awesome!
    The measurements I was looking for were to compare to post 506, but I see that doesn't really tell you how much "lift" the kit really offers, since you were a few inches high to begin with...

    Unless the front is prone to bottoming easily over mild bumps, I would put a sway bar on before you up the spring rate... The SFA setup has a LOT less roll stiffness than the IFS did, even compared to running IFS without a sway bar... IMO (as an engineer with a vehicle dynamics background...) you're going to need a sway bar to get decent for handling, no matter how stiff you make the front springs... Without it, you'll have a truck that's very prone to oversteer in an emergency maneuver, not to mention the iffy seat of the pants feel with body roll, especially with a camper in the bed.

    Nice that the dually springs bumped it up. My first hybrid pack was really stiff too. The redux with thinner 2nd leaf is a bit better, but still pretty stiff empty, but so nice with the camper in the back that I'll suffer a little with the empty ride.

    Will you be able to trim up the inner fender liners and put them back in? I cringe at the thought of spraying salty snow mess all over the insides of the engine compartment, though in Reno, that's probably not as much a concern...

    Looking forward to your next trip report to see how it all does!
    Yeah, my suspension has been messed with so many times, I couldn't tell you what the stock height was anymore.

    Never thought about a swaybar making that kind of difference. I planned on adding one (in fact, I have an experiment up my sleeve), but I will definitely try that before I do the stiffer springs. It does have very little body roll, which I think is a by product of the radius arm design. It handles "flatter" than it did with the IFS.

    I am pleased with the duallys so far, but I really have to drive it some more to make sure they are right.

    You bet I am. I too wouldn't be happy to let all of the road grime get inside the engine compartment. We do get some salt, they started using it a couple of years ago. Not to mention, dirt/water/and debris while offroad.

    Me neither.

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    Just a little...for now.

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    Great job on the swap this thing came out very nice by the looks of things.

    Best of Luck,

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by '05TJLWBRUBY View Post
    Great job on the swap this thing came out very nice by the looks of things.

    Best of Luck,

    Mike
    Thank you. I appreciate the compliments. I am still dialing it in, but so far, I am really enjoying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locrwln View Post
    Very nice execution. It sits just right. I love the look of a truck where you almost wonder if that was stock? Not jacked up so high you know "someone did that".
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