97 pathfinder ?'s

rockhead

Observer
Found a deal (I think) on a 97 pathfinder. It is a 5 spd with 127k miles. I am thinking of replacing my 97 xj with this. How would these compare. they seem to be pretty similar. My xj is super easy to work on. How bout the pathfinder? I may two a small tent trailer with it. I see the power is a little low. Anyone tow with the vg33e and 5spd combo? Any specific things to look for when buying one? Thanks
 

Co-opski

Expedition Leader
I took a 6 foot enclosed trailer full of all my belongings and a 6 grade class room up the alcan, with no problems. It drank petro like a pig, 10-12mpg for 4000 miles. Mine was an automatic, btw. Lots of pathfinder builds on here. The pathfinder and the xj are both nice trucks. Do you have the 4.0?
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
My brother has a 2000 XJ with the 4.0 and I have an Xterra with the 3.3. Definately a noticeable power difference but I haven't had any issues towing with mine. Gets slow and bad on gas is all. The R50 guys will chime in soon.

Can't go wrong with them, great trucks
 

bushnut

Adventurer
I've got a 2000 R50 (pathfinder). It's not as quick off the line as my buddies xj but it has serious low end grunt. Not to hard to work on either. It does have some quirks though. 1. almost no 4x4 aftermarket support, if you want to mod it you'll have to do it yourself, check out www.nissanpathfinders.net. 2.if you are going to tow install an aftermarket transmission cooler. 3. make sure that the timing belt and water pump have been changed.
The reason I went with the R50 over an xj (I was looking at both) was that it is about a half size bigger inside. it allows me to camp with 4 adults and a dog for a weekend and all of our gear is inside. tried it with an xj and all our stuff was on the roof. Also, if you are doing any highway driving the ride quality is way better than the XJ, it's quiet and smooth. The 4wd system is very good, even better if you have the LSD rear diff.
I've had mine a year now and love it.
 

rockhead

Observer
Any specific things to look for when purchasing?
I like my xj but I do want something slightly smoother on the highway. And if it was a little bigger that would be great also. I often have to put things on the roof when camping.
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
Any specific things to look for when purchasing?
I like my xj but I do want something slightly smoother on the highway. And if it was a little bigger that would be great also. I often have to put things on the roof when camping.

Timing belt is important. They are due at 100 000 miles and it is fairly important for these engines as they are interference. If its not done it might cost $1000 for a shop to do it and the water pump/thermostat etc
 

bushnut

Adventurer
I had a local shop do mine. Nissan sells a kit that includes timing belt, and water pump. while they were in there they did a tensioner pulley and all the other belts. cost me about $800.00 not sure where you live but rust is always an issue, check behind the the front struts and under the rear seats. Other than that the usual used car questions need to be asked.
 

Arktikos

Explorer
Any specific things to look for when purchasing?
I like my xj but I do want something slightly smoother on the highway. And if it was a little bigger that would be great also. I often have to put things on the roof when camping.

I think you'll like the Pathfinder a lot. Nissans are sort of the sleeper Japanese make out there, compared with the popularity of Toyotas. But my experience with them is they're about equally fine in quality. It'll be a big upgrade over a Jeep, for sure. Parts are sometimes a bit difficult to source. Better a stick shift than an auto in my opinion.
 

rockhead

Observer
Well my $1600 pathfinder got sold before I could get it. I ordered a set of bilsteins for the xj. Maybe that will smooth out the highway ride a little. If not I will be searching for its replacement. Thanks for all the help
 

crunchie

New member
So I realise that the pathy sold but I had to chime in. I own both 2000 XJ and a 99 Pathfinder. They are not an apples to apples comparison. The Xj is noticeably more powerful even with double the km's on it (330k vs 150k) but it is also 800lbs lighter in stock form. The Pathy is my wife's dd so I can't speak to serious off road ability, but it handles snowy roads and moderate fsr's with absolutely no issues in stock form. My XJ is built for more serious aplications but the handling when stock seemed better at highway speeds (now it just sucks on the hwy... lol) but that could be due to the aged suspension on the Pathy. The Pathy is definitely larger both inside and out which is good and bad. It makes for lots of comfort when travelling but might make it challenging on some tighter trails (especially if you don't like pinstriping). That being said, I am not a small guy but I find the drivers seat in the XJ roomier and more comfortable for longer days. If you can get over the lack of power, towing with the Pathy is reasonable. You just won't be making any speed on hills etc. It handled my loaded 10' utility trailer (~3500lbs) with no issues on a 230km move with some pretty good hills.
Mechanically, the XJ is much easier to deal with. It has it's quirks, but I personally prefer working on it over the Pathy. Anyone who has had to change the spark plugs or knock sensor on the pathy's 3.3 would likely agree with me. Whoever designed that engine compartment should re-think their career choice in automotive design. In typical Japanese auto fashion, the Pathy has proven to be very robust and well built. I have owned several Toyotas in the past and it seems to be on par, quality wise.
If you are still thinking of getting a Pathy, check to see if the rust recall has been done for the front strut towers. There is a rust issue for the front end (especially in north east us and eastern/central Canada) but it is a pretty easy fix in most cases. They look at the damage and the overall condition of the vehicle and determine if they will repair it or take it off the road. Get this checked BEFORE you purchase it, because if they determine that it is not road worthy, they can essentially condemn the vehicle and not let it leave the lot. I am not sure about compensation in this case but it is better to be sure before shelling out on a purchase.
As a travelling vehicle, purchase price will be offset by fuel costs. There are steps you can take to improve the mileage but the gains are minimal. Just accept that the Pathy is an underpowered gas hog. I have looked into adding the supercharger from the same era frontier, but so-far have not had much success.
As far as I can tell, mods/upgrades for the Pathy are more expensive and less abundant than for the XJ but I haven't researched much for the Pathy yet. That is coming in the near future (lift, rims, tires etc.). If you are into modifying your vehicles, the XJ is definitely more approachable IMO.
Sorry for the long winded post, but I felt that I could offer some insight into both sides of the coin. Hope it helps.
 

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