advice with my tacoma and OME

someday

Adventurer
Well, just pulled the trigger. After much reading on tacoma world, talking to some local folks (one guy was in traffic as I biked to work) and talking to Toytec, I just ordered OME kit ( http://toyteclifts.com/index.php?pag...mart&Itemid=72 ).

Got 885 springs (09 DCSB),
No top spacer,
full replacement rear leafs,
diff drop kit
and paid extra $100 to get springs assembled.

I was told without the top spacer, I should get a 2 1/4" lift in front, and 2 1/2' lift in rear. Will the front settle? I am pretty sure the rear will settle a little (with cap and misc. crap I carry in the bed). I was hoping for 2" maximum but I will be ok if its a little over. Will I need the diff drop kit?

I was quoted locally $400-500 install but that was with them rebuilding the front shocks/springs. So I am hoping its a little less without them having to rebuild the front.

This will be a couple hundred over budget but EVERYONE I talked to has nothing but good things to say about the OME kit.

Just wondering if anyone here has a similiar set up, their opinions, and if I need to replace my UCA's. I thought it was over 3" of lift you did, but further reading people say 2.5" is the magic number,even though the guys a TOYTEC claim I wont need them with this set up. I would like to get this right the first time so I dont want to have them installed THEN realize I should have bought UCA's.

Thanks for everyones input.

:confused:
 

Nullifier

Expedition Leader
Great lift. You do not need to replace the uca. Ome makes their kits to functionproperly using stock uca. I installed mine myself and if you have floor jack, jack stands and basic tools you can to. Shops will charge more to install something they did not sell just keep that in mind. Did you order shocks? Longer travel will require longer shocks in back.
 

Owyhee H

Adventurer
Are you adding a bumper? I think that without any additional weight in the front you will see 2.5"+ of lift. There is a point where they can still get the alignment in spec, you will just have to see.

I like my OME but went with shorter springs and ended up with 1.5". I have a 4cyl so went with 883x springs. With the 884's I had 2.5-2.75" of lift. My alignment was a little off at that lift but is perfect with the 1.5".

The 883, 884, and 885 springs are all the same specs. just different lengths.
 

someday

Adventurer
Null - yes, I got the OME shock f/r.

Owy - I got the 885. That is what is recommended from the double cab. I dont plan on adding any significant weight to the front, the most would be a hidden winch with recovery points that would keep the stock bumper. And thats a BIG maybe. I didnt realize 883, 884 and 885 where just different lenghts. I wish the TOYTEC guy would have said something, I talked to him for about 1/2 hour.

Right now I am leaning towards getting them just to be on the safe side. With my luck, I will need them anyways.

Thanks for the input. :sombrero:
 

someday

Adventurer
This is the reply that I recieved from TOYTEC, though a appreciate the reponse, it seems like there are WAY to many variables to make sure it will work. Especially the "the condition of the rest of the OE suspension all play a role" line. To me, that sounds like eventually new UCA's will be needed? The truck is just under 40,000 miles.

"Generally you can get a good alignment done at or below 3” worth of lift. The lower the front lift the better most shops can align it. Please keep in mind that there are several other factors; The alignment tech doing the work, the equipment the tech is using, and the condition of the rest of the OE suspension all play a role in how good an alignment comes out in the end.End story is, if your truck has never been in a wreck, the rest of the suspension is not worn, and you find a shop with an experienced Tech you should have no problem getting it aligned with stock UCAs at around 2” worth of lift."
 
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NM-Frontier

Explorer
First off you are going to love the end result of this set up, getting the rear spring will be one of the best decisions you'v made! What a HUGE difference the whole kit makes.
Now I have 886 with a ARB and winch so the front set up will be hard to compare but with the rear springs and extra leaf I did not need the spacers for the carrier bearing or the diff drop kit, or the trim packer. After talking to Will at Sierra Expeditions about doing lots of installs he recommended to go with out and check the angle and vibrations on the road. Seems that a lot of trucks don't always need the spacers, some do but most don't, same with the trim packer each truck seem different on that one.
Maybe I just lucked out but it brought up a good point to check and make sure you really need these spacer before you A, spend money on them, and B, start altering even more then we have on our trucks. Be prepared to get it aligned then drive it for a month or more and let every thing settle and re torque every thing and get the alignment checked.
Since you got the struts assembled have you looked in to doing the install your self? Getting the struts built is the only part you need real specialized tools for. You may be able to make up that $ over budget and get a fun experience out of doing it your self. A few tips if you do: Take the sway bar all the way out and re install when your done it will give you some more room to move in there, also get a tie rod end puller and pop those off as you do each side, a lot less wrestling that way too.
Good luck and have fun with the new ride.:sombrero:
 

someday

Adventurer
First off you are going to love the end result of this set up, getting the rear spring will be one of the best decisions you'v made! What a HUGE difference the whole kit makes. - thanks. Im hoping!




Now I have 886 with a ARB and winch so the front set up will be hard to compare but with the rear springs and extra leaf I did not need the spacers for the carrier bearing or the diff drop kit, or the trim packer. After talking to Will at Sierra Expeditions about doing lots of installs he recommended to go with out and check the angle and vibrations on the road. Seems that a lot of trucks don't always need the spacers, some do but most don't, same with the trim packer each truck seem different on that one. Maybe I just lucked out but it brought up a good point to check and make sure you really need these spacer before you A, spend money on them, and B, start altering even more then we have on our trucks. - I wanted to stay >2" to avoid having to worry about angles, UCA's etc. But after reading such great reviews about OME I said ****** and went ordered one. Now I am doubting myself. I def need the trim packer cause my truck has an obvious lean to it.


Be prepared to get it aligned then drive it for a month or more and let every thing settle and re torque every thing and get the alignment checked. - yeah, planning on. :)


Since you got the struts assembled have you looked in to doing the install your self? Getting the struts built is the only part you need real specialized tools for. You may be able to make up that $ over budget and get a fun experience out of doing it your self. A few tips if you do: Take the sway bar all the way out and re install when your done it will give you some more room to move in there, also get a tie rod end puller and pop those off as you do each side, a lot less wrestling that way too. - thanks, if I can find some people locally that would love a case of beer and some pizza I will. I dont know that many local taco enthusiasts.


So the question of the day, did you replace your UCA's?

Thanks for input, this is exactly what Im looking for.
 

NM-Frontier

Explorer
No I just don't see the need for the UCAs on my truck. I guess if I wanted more travel I would, but for drivability I say no need. As for total lift height, I mess up and never measured before but after all has broken in the front can't be more then 2" and the rear unloaded 2.5-2.75. Don't forget that your are changing out all the components that cause your lean.
Hoped that all helped.:sombrero:
 

ebg18t

Adventurer
I would leave out the spacers. If you are receiving the assembled I would suggest doing the install yourself. I just did my 4Runner and it took me about 3.75hrs. The fronts were about 2.5hrs. I am not super mechanical, but I worked thru it.
 

CavTrooper

Observer
I have been very happy with my OME lift and like it much better than the stock TRD suspension. A smoother ride all around. The install price seems a bit steep I got mine done for 250 which was well worth it. I have all the tools, but didn't have extra hands. They were done in a few hours and that was that.
 

someday

Adventurer
NM - 2" would be perfect.

ebg - I didn't get the spacers, only the trim packer. Unless thats what you mean about spacers.:oops:

Cav - did you get UCA's? What OME set up did you go with.

Thanks for the input guys

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Area52

Adventurer
Now I have 886

So the question of the day, did you replace your UCA's?

Gordon,

I also have the 886's w/Dakars and picked up a set of light racing UCAs.

My lift goes on tomorrow although I don't have my front bumper or winch yet, but those are coming soon.

I also saw your FJ 60 on CL.

Jim
 

NM-Frontier

Explorer
Gordon,

I also have the 886's w/Dakars and picked up a set of light racing UCAs.

My lift goes on tomorrow although I don't have my front bumper or winch yet, but those are coming soon.

I also saw your FJ 60 on CL.

Jim

I think If I didn't have the bumper and winch I would want the UCAs to help out the angles. Light Racing seem to be the way to go no need to mess with Uniballs down the road. Yea deep down I hope the 60 doesn't go but I got a overstocked driveway.
 

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