Anyone recomend a good Bolt extraction kit
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jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
It would likely be cheaper to simply grab a spare tire bracket from the salvage yard or ebay instead of fussing with an extractor kit, takes all of 5-6 minutes to swap it out. Another option is once you get the spare and bracket off you can soak it in ATF and possibly get vise grips on what remains of the bolt. And in the future take the spare off once a year and anti-seize the bolt threads to prevent rusting.
isnt that a stud not a bolt? arent they normally pressed in from the other side? if so just get a bfh and a punch and give it a good whack. otherwise an easy out kit works well theres heaps of brands out there. you just drill a hole and the easy out is reverse threaded so it screws into the bolt and turns it.
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
Apparently you are not familiar with the Montero at all, it's a bolt that threads into the spare tire bracket.
jhill15
Explorer
Thanks guys, I will call around to some pull and pays tomorrow and see if I can find a gen3. That may be the easiest thing to do as long as I can find one. If not then I am gonna have to extract the bolt. I sprayed them both with pb blaster so hopefully that will free up the other bolt so it doesnt snap when I try to take it out. Im betting that its gonna break as well.
If I happen to find an earlier gen in a junk yard will the spare tire carrier fit my gen3?
If I happen to find an earlier gen in a junk yard will the spare tire carrier fit my gen3?
If you really want to, I can probably direct you toward some decent extractor tools. Or you can just go over to the garage journal where you'll find all the tool talk you can stand.
But I agree with J-n-M, it's probably easier to just change it out if you can find one locally.
But I agree with J-n-M, it's probably easier to just change it out if you can find one locally.
MonteroLTD
Adventurer
This all depends on if the the bolt is broken flush. If it's not, you have some options;
1) Weld a nut on it.
2) Apply heat and use either a twist socket extractor or vise grips.
3) Turn it with an air hammer or a hammer and chisel.
If it is broken flush;
1) Left handed drill bit.
2) Drill it a hole through it and use a spiral flute extractor.
3) Drill it out completely and helicoil the hole.
Good luck and God speed.
1) Weld a nut on it.
2) Apply heat and use either a twist socket extractor or vise grips.
3) Turn it with an air hammer or a hammer and chisel.
If it is broken flush;
1) Left handed drill bit.
2) Drill it a hole through it and use a spiral flute extractor.
3) Drill it out completely and helicoil the hole.
Good luck and God speed.
jhill15
Explorer
The spare is still held on by one bolt so I cant see if the broken bolt is flush behind the carrier. On the front of the carrier it broke off about a half an inch inside. The pull and pays arent open yet so later this morning I will call around. If no luck I will stop at lowes or harbor freight and see what I can find to get it out.
Skip Harbor Freight. Lowes might be worth a look but I wouldn't hold my breath.
On something like an extractor, you want the best you can buy. These things are notorious for breaking off and making matters worse. A cheap one will only bring you pain.
If there is some bolt sticking out, you can get something that looks like a regular socket but has a spiral wound set of teeth on the inside. Some people call them twist sockets. You need a full set to cover different sizes - you hammer them over the stripped stud/rounded bolt and they bight in as you turn them. They work as good as anything I've ever used in this situation.
If it's broken off flush, a left hand drill bit is a good start. Since this is a pretty big bolt you have half a chance - the small extractors almost never work. Be sure you center punch it exactly in the center, and work your way up from small to larger drill bits being careful to drill as close to the center as possible. If you can remove the carrier and use a drill press, so much the better but a hand drill will work with care. Drill progressively bigger until you get nearly to the threads. Then if it still hasn't come out from the left hand bit, you can use an extractor. I don't like the spiral kind for internal work like this, I prefer the square kind with a flute on each corner. Irwin makes some quite reasonably priced that you can often find at local hardware stores. Again, not great but given the size you have to deal with they should work.
Personally I've never had luck trying to weld a nut to a broken bolt but I've only tried a few times and I'm not a great welder anyway.
Here's a whole thread on the topic:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95588
On something like an extractor, you want the best you can buy. These things are notorious for breaking off and making matters worse. A cheap one will only bring you pain.
If there is some bolt sticking out, you can get something that looks like a regular socket but has a spiral wound set of teeth on the inside. Some people call them twist sockets. You need a full set to cover different sizes - you hammer them over the stripped stud/rounded bolt and they bight in as you turn them. They work as good as anything I've ever used in this situation.
If it's broken off flush, a left hand drill bit is a good start. Since this is a pretty big bolt you have half a chance - the small extractors almost never work. Be sure you center punch it exactly in the center, and work your way up from small to larger drill bits being careful to drill as close to the center as possible. If you can remove the carrier and use a drill press, so much the better but a hand drill will work with care. Drill progressively bigger until you get nearly to the threads. Then if it still hasn't come out from the left hand bit, you can use an extractor. I don't like the spiral kind for internal work like this, I prefer the square kind with a flute on each corner. Irwin makes some quite reasonably priced that you can often find at local hardware stores. Again, not great but given the size you have to deal with they should work.
Personally I've never had luck trying to weld a nut to a broken bolt but I've only tried a few times and I'm not a great welder anyway.
Here's a whole thread on the topic:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95588
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jhill15
Explorer
Thanks man, i will probably have to use the drill bit set. I think later this afternoon I will just go ahead and try and to get the other bolt out and take the carrier off so I can see what im working with from behind and hopefull there will be some of the bolt sticking through the carrier. If so im gonna soak it with pb blaster and try to loosen it up with vice grips. Then use the left handed bit to get it out.
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
If you can get vise grips on it enough to loosen it then a bit would be kind of pointless.
jhill15
Explorer
Now that you said that your right cause I could just unscrew the bolt out of the back of it....mondays lol.
jhill15
Explorer
Well im waiting on a new carrier. I havent had a chance to get outside and mess with the broken bolt but I figured when I do I would rather have a back up plan so im not standing in my driveway trying to figure what to do.
I found a parts truck on craigslist "2002" and scored the carrier, horn set, and ac condenser fan all for $125 shipped to my door.
The guy was very nice and was willing to ship. I havent received the parts yet so I will have to post back on the condition of them but heres his ad. Also I will post the link in the fs section for anyone who may need parts
https://dayton.craigslist.org/pts/4595419210.html
I found a parts truck on craigslist "2002" and scored the carrier, horn set, and ac condenser fan all for $125 shipped to my door.
The guy was very nice and was willing to ship. I havent received the parts yet so I will have to post back on the condition of them but heres his ad. Also I will post the link in the fs section for anyone who may need parts
https://dayton.craigslist.org/pts/4595419210.html
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
I looked at a 2002 at the salvage yard yesterday but the carrier already had a broken bolt, glad you found one.