Are Edmunds and KBB Good Starting Points - Gen 3

2to4wheels

Adventurer
I am a cash buyer ready to pull the trigger on a daily driver Gen 3. Frankly, I see asking prices all over the board for Gen 3s, with some being way higher than KBB or Edmunds per the mileage/condition. What am I missing here? I know there are a lot of factors to consider but from what I gather, these are a very low demand vehicle so what are sellers sometimes crazy?

Just to throw a hypothetical out there (because this vehicle doesn't exist that I am aware of at the current moment)...what would you pay for say a 2004/2005 with 100K miles in better than average condition with maintenance records including timing belt. I am just trying to gauge what the enthusiasts would do if they ran across this vehicle.

Hopefully this will be informative to all.
 

normal_dave

waytoomuchwritinginposts.
I'll chime in, since I just bought my 2002 Limited. Kbb proved useless for my search. Their private party pricing seemed no where close to the market. If I recall correctly, the majority of their data comes from dealer sales reporting and with Monteros not having a large public following, and not available in America the last several years, data is probably weak. My original plan was to sell the family van, add a $ 1,000 or so to the proceeds, and find a gently used older Montero. Based on KBB data, this should have been a cinch plan. Reality showed what you have seen, nice condition low miles vehicles commanding high prices, ones with decent or attractive prices were pretty rough. Edmunds proved useful to me only for owner reviews. As far as popularity, among enthusiasts, or those "in the know" regarding overall capability and reliability, they seem to be made of gold. With the rest of the SUV buying public, maybe not. The Australians seem to worship them. After spending time getting to know mine and the off-road capabilities, feel as if I'm the cat that just ate the canary, having joined the club of realization that few vehicles on the road are as well equipped, and generally off-road capable for the price as is the Montero Limited. I searched all over the Southeast US and from time to time looked for fly and drive options as well. A few that were in range of my (reality adjusted) budget literally disappeared the same day they posted. ~ 2004/2005 Limited one owner St. Augustine $ 4,500, also a XLS Atlanta, check engine light, good pictures $ 1,999, gone within hours. Another factor seems to be what part of the country you are looking. If there were good dealers in the area, there seemed to be more Montero's for sale, if not, then really slim pickings. Before I picked up mine, I spent time looking at a 40th anniversary Land Cruiser at one of my customer locations, other than the bigger engine, and the Toyota name, and the famous "Toyota Tax" of incredible resale prices, I just didn't think I would be missing much going with the Montero for a fraction of the price. With all that said, if you have decided a Montero is for you...great, set your budget, and be prepared to buy when the right one becomes available, I think you'll get much more vehicle for your dollar than most anything else out there, and the savings can be spent outfitting your new Montero. At the end of the day, you are the one to live with your purchase not me or KBB/Edmunds. As I posted before, I can't believe I wasted so much time considering other vehicles and worrying about paying too much vs the market reports. Soap box, going back to storage now...Good Luck with your search.
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
I just paid 10k for a 2005 in great shape, 1 owner 130k miles. Think about it like this, the "equivalent" Toyota insimilar shape is 15k and the Montero is far superior and better quality. Worth is for those who know what they are actually buying not what the market dictates. It just works to our advantage that Monteros don't hold their value.
 
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2to4wheels

Adventurer
I just paid 10k for a 2005 in great shape, 1 owner 130k miles. Think about it like this, the "equivalent" Toyota insimilar shape is 15k and the Montero is far superior and better quality. Worth is for those who know what tjey are actually buying not what the market dictates. It just works to our advantage that Monteros don't hold their value.


Thanks for sharing. A bit more expensive than I would expect but I guess if you have th cash and don 't know when the next one will come around, I wouldn't mind paying a premium.
 

PirateMcGee

Expedition Leader
I would pay 8-10k for the right 03 plus under 100k miles, no accident, no rust, 1 owner, every maintenance record, never smoked in. They are fairly rare but I don't find them any more so than low mileage clean maintained land cruisers and they are easily 5k min. cheaper.
 

DeltaFry

Observer
I paid 10K for my Montero Limited 2005, Single owner and with 97K miles in it. Didn't negotiate much because of the experience I had with another one close to my area(2003, Limited) which was booked in a day and I wanted this one badly.
 

normal_dave

waytoomuchwritinginposts.

The Viper

Adventurer
Last september i paid $6700 (Dealer) for a very good condition 2003 Monty, 119K...had to fly to Florida to get it and drive it back (i still need to replace the timing belt, which has no record of ever being replaced)

KBB is useless, Edmunds seemed much more in line with dealer prices and private party when i was searching for mine
 

plh

Explorer
I just paid 10k for a 2005 in great shape, 1 owner 130k miles. Think about it like this, the "equivalent" Toyota insimilar shape is 15k and the Montero is far superior and better quality. Worth is for those who know what they are actually buying not what the market dictates. It just works to our advantage that Monteros don't hold their value.

Welcome to the Gen 3!
 

KyleT

Explorer
Last fall 6000 including TTL for my 06 with 164k nearly pristine and this spring 4500 including TTL for my 03 with 143k and clean body but a little worn leather. Both full options limiteds. I am super picky and negotiate.


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