Boring grease reminder

Unfortunately for you-all , i'm on lay off from heavy civil construction. working as a mechanic all over the world, and this winter likely make my trek to alaska.
However i have time to pester folks about things that bug me.

this time?
grease. or lack therof, or the wrong kind and a biting critique of the boutique greases; Amsoi purple schaeffers etc.

grease zirks, are hard to find , time consuming, and never fun except for dorks like me. they come in many sizes and metric/standard threads.
they are the portal to reliability and failure prevention in the outback.
lube points on our old mitsu's are many and im grateful for that.
the newer sealed units make me nervous.

take time to crawl under the rig b4 winter gets too cold and hit all the points.

My tips for greasing.
machinery in my charge got grease weekly or even daily. I have worked with men whom i respect, who don't grease but according to some much longer intervals set in some office in phoenix or somewhere, by someone trying to save money on grease. (if you have 4000 pieces of equipment to grease, well that is a lot of money in grease)

grease for us in our rigs is cheap; one tube a year.
Speaking of tubes: forget the boutique brands and their expensive, sparkling, marketing bull****.
Amsoil is no better than supertech.
it is no better because your rig don't need it. its better marginally perhaps, in some very exclusive area, but for practical purpose its not worth the extra money and hassle in buying the stuff.
As a qualifier some greases are very very expensive and are necessary in particular applications. food-grade greases, low temp greases open gear grease very high temp greases etc.

rotating assembly lubes ( differentials engines and transmission) can all benefit from a high quality synthetic.

Where your rig benefits from grease is in frequency of application. 2x a year.
spring and fall.
unless your in water a lot then after water dunking its wise to consider a grease application to push water out from where it dont belong..

the other mistake commonly made is applying too much grease.
points to consider.

waste of good grease.
too much in a bearing cup.
heat absorption, and
ruining the seal allowing in outside contaminants.
none of this apply to pins and such, but we don't have open pins on our rigs.


general rule squeeze until you hear the first "snap", less if possible.

U.joints 2 squeezes. centrifical force will distribute the grease evenly.
water crossings are very very hard on u joints which have very close tolerances and very little forgiveness to foreign material that works its' way in.

Tie rod ends 2-3 squeezes, when you see the rubber dust cover begin to bulge-stop. dont let grease ooze out
ball joints -same.

in theory if you are not losing a lot of grease; you can easily spot this problem, then one or at most 2 squeezes are enough 2x a year.
be sparing on the grease. too much can cause the same problems as too little or using the wrong grease.

Right grease.
The lubrication field is a fascinating field. Generally the engineers work in microns.
the very surface of the metal and the grease that covers it is their only concern
they set standards. each manufacturer calibrates to those standards.
Super tech from wal mart is my go-to grease.
its as effective on a routine maintenance plan as any other grease.

don't believe this? look it up. wal mart grease beats some names that will surprise you .

its contract-made by huge outfits that know what they are doing and the quality is good.
if you go synthetic to make your little heart feel good, then redline is my go-to. maybe supertech makes a synthetic too -i dont know.
it ranks very highly in all tests, is commonly available, and in some cases like for translube is the very best choice.
i use wal mart otherwise, and highly recommend it. i like to save money , and in my business there is no glamour in glitz.
We have to use what works under very rough circumstances. ninety percent of my jobs use chevron blue tube grease: cheap, effective and commonly available.
just use it often.

thank you
 

mudraider

Adventurer
Dork. Hahahaha. Fun greasing things?????? That's just crazy. Thanks for venting.

sent from my pretty good Android phone
 

JohnnyBfromPeoria

I'm Getting Around To It
For some strange reason, I don't mind packing wheel bearings with fresh grease. Sure that sounds weird, but it's like being a kid and playing in the mud or something. Remember to never spin your bearings when they aren't greased, too.

Say what you will.

John B.
 
Dork. Hahahaha. Fun greasing things?????? That's just crazy. Thanks for venting.

sent from my pretty good Android phone

im quite serious about it . i've spent many years with a grease gun as my principle means of making a living. cranes, oil derricks, heavy equipment .....light equipment,
 
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Since you have more experience than probably all of us combined putting grease into equipment... How do you handle grease fittings or joints which will not accept grease?

ie. old vehicle been sitting a while and owners don't know what a grease gun is. One time I pulled the fitting of a ball joint and found it to be fine and it was the joint itself that was caked. In that case I used a heat gun to warm the joint and get the grease flowing. Is this ok method in your experience? I then pushed all old grease out of said joint.

I am drawn to doing this properly and having best practices. I like saving money too and helping parts last as long as possible.
 

FordGuy1

Adventurer
I am one that does look for high quality grease, there is some great products out there. One that I have found to be great is made by Caterpillar called desert gold, worth every penny.
 
with caked grease ideally remove and replace. do this by putting new grease in.
replace zirks. soak old zirks in solvent. they are reusable and expensive. store them away. there are metric zirks and SAE zirks. there are different sizes.



caking is due to the petroleum component wicking out of the wax suspension component.
a simple solution is surpa tech aerosol lubricant -essentially a wd 40 like thing. great stuff.

spray it into the crevices and cracks . this serves to loosen up the waxy deposits-essentially reinstalling the oils into the wax. at that point the wax will move more easily out and be replaced with new. this works well on shafts , sleeves, (think linkage), and other obscure locations.
ball joints ; lift the rubber cover and with the straw attached, spray mightily under the dust cover. This thins the wax so when you pump fresh grease in the old is liquid enough to squeeze out without displacing the dust cover.
squeeze cover back into position when done greasing.

AVOID over greasing, except open gear. or sliding bar (motor graders, and forklifts)


Wheel Bearings.
temporary fix for a bad wheel bearing on the road; trailers, cars etc: get water pump pliers, pull dust cap, (you do have a dust cap on don't you? please say yes ), then shoot a squirt or two of gear oil into the bearing and having the dust cap full of gear oil , real fast b4 the gear oil has chance to drool out, snap the cover back on. gear oil is an excellent bearing lube and will soften and make runny the grease so it will move around the bearing surfaces.
this should get you home unless you are a thousand miles from nowhere, under which circumstances you will have to repeat this procedure .

many times we get water intrusion into wheel bearings.
if this is a common problem. pack the hub full of grease.plumb full.
this displaces the cavity where water can get in and get trapped.
normally i don't like this because grease will also attract contaminants and water droplets, and holds heat to a remarkable degree.
when it cakes due to heat, then it hardens and becomes a coagulated mess. but with water its a different story. you must keep the water out. water out grease in. its also expensive procedure.


Grease: everyone has their favorite grease. mostly its all the same stuff . kinda.
read the tests the comparisons between the major brands.
with the exception of big foot ( a favorite of a farmer friend, i hate the stuff except for ....water.) they are all comparable.
I go with supratech -wal mart's brand. As its a high quality grease besting some big names in drop out and lubricity tests. its quite cheap, always handy. i never have to buy a case, as wal mart is close and i let them inventory it for me.

extra tubes of grease are so much fun.
"Hey, who set that tool box full of tools on that tube of grease in my service box door?" splat. grease everywhere.
 

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