Boulders/Rocks for Land Anchors

Billinsd

Observer
Do any of you ever use big boulders/rocks as an anchor to winch off of? I'm thinking depending on the rock it could break or come loose? Also, it could damage the recovery strap/rope?

I do have a pull pal, but realize in some really rocky conditions it might not work.

Thanks
Bill
 

JamesDowning

Explorer
It's kinda up to you to determine if the rock is stable/heavy enough to winch off. I've heard of boulders sliding when used as a winch point.

Use a length of chain around the rock, I wouldn't use a strap. As you said, the strap will abrade on the rock. As with trees, always choke the rock as low as possible to keep from exerting a rotational moment on the rock (which would make it roll).

Pullpal does not recommend using their product to drape over rocks, but some do it with some success.
 

njsjeep

Observer
I haven't used big rocks as anchors for winching but I can tell you from my climbing experience that even very large, car sized, rocks can be unstable. I have personally accidentally moved rocks that probably weighed over a thousand pounds. On the other hand, I've rapelled off of or anchored to hundreds of big rocks or rock protrusions without incident. Granted the magnitude of the forces involved with body weight verses a loaded rig are much different the concept is the same.

Before using a boulder or rock protrusion as an anchor give it a careful inspection, look to see if it is well into the ground rather than sitting loose. Try pushing and prying on the rock to see if it moves. With big rocks this might require several people or a large pry bar and trying to move it from various angles or climbing on to it to see if it will shift. You might even consider giving it a test pull if possible.

If you do find what looks like a possible anchor be sure to use a sufficiently long sling to allow a shallow angle for the anchor and protect it well from abrasion. A tree saver or non-stretch type strap is ideal and chain or cable works well too but be careful that they are not kinked or forced to bend around sharp edges. If equipment allows, one trick is to completely wrap the anchor with the sling/chain etc. to keep it from shifting if the direction of the load changes. This system would partly depend on the type of strap/chain and shackles you use.
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
I have used a winch to move a boulder and I did use another boulder to set the direction, does that count? ;)

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I would rather use a strap since I am worried about a chain sliding on the rock around here. Yes you do risk strap damage.
Volcanic rock can be porous and the size very large to have enough weight to offer a good anchor point. I am not sure I and a good enough judge to know for sure if the boulder would have enough mass to offset the stuck. Now if the terrain is in my favor, I see no problems. I would not attach to one above grade, but below grade it might be a good option. Any port in a storm.
 

rezdiver

Adventurer
does it matter, either way if you move the rock, down hill from the rock and it will roll down your way. up hill from the rock and it will drag you down with it if you pick the wrong rock and dislodge it...
 

Billinsd

Observer
Good points, thanks. I got a pull pal and most everywhere I go there is some dirt to dig it into.
Thanks
Bill
 

taugust

Adventurer
There are straps specifically made for use around rocks. They have additional sleeves to be abrasion resistant. I have one (that I won, never used). Don't have easy access to it to know manufacturer.
 

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