Cadillac Escalade Hybrid

[Superu]

Just saw a commercial for a sclade hybrid boasting 50% better city mpg. The small print then says 12 mpg city and 19 hwy on the non hybrid 2WD model. It doesn't appear to be available in 4WD or AWD.

Now, that's something to brag about! Who buys these things besides aspiring rappers and NBA wannabees?

$72,865 - $76,585?

That just seems like a lot of coin for a tricked out Tahoe with Corvette magnetic suspension.

p.s. No offense to anyone on ExPo who owns one. Just my .02.

 

[4Rescue]

Just saw a commercial for a sclade hybrid boasting 50% better city mpg. The small print then says 12 mpg city and 19 hwy on the non hybrid 2WD model. It doesn't appear to be available in 4WD or AWD.

Now, that's something to brag about! Who buys these things besides aspiring rappers and NBA wannabees?

$72,865 - $76,585?

That just seems like a lot of coin for a tricked out Tahoe with Corvette magnetic suspension.

p.s. No offense to anyone on ExPo who owns one. Just my .02.

that's how I feel about ALL GM products... And yeah the Escalade is pretty garbage IMO.

Cheers

Dave

 

[mobilguy66]

?????????????

I don't quite understand why you two guy's jump into the Domestic Full Size forum and BASH the Escalade because they don't get good fuel mileage and cost too much. There are alot of a lot of them on the road so it should be obvious why someone would want to pony up the money to cruise around in one. Two reasons I can think of is they don't want either a '05 Outback or an '89 Toyota. There is no need to come to this forum, BASH GM products, apologize, and then leave.

 

[4Rescue]

I have alot of reasons to bash GM's "trucks" from the last 10 years... Fuel milage is only one of them. To be fair, there are Full Sized domestics I like, for instance the Power Wagon and any Cumins powered Dodge. And who apologized???

Cheers

Dave

 

[Superu]

There are alot of a lot of them on the road so it should be obvious why someone would want to pony up the money to cruise around in one

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Hey Mobilguy66,

All this statement makes obvious is that there are a lot of them on the road. It says nothing to the question of why? I brought it up because the commercial piqued my curiosity.

I'm not saying it's a terrible truck. Just a lot of coin for a lot of bling and no off road capability (2WD only available w hybrid).

Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

 

[gary in ohio]

That Ad drives me crazy... HYBIRD that gets 13/20 mpg where the non-hybird get 10/19. OH I feel so green...

 

[Bella PSD]

From Caddy web site on the Escalade Hybrid....." Based on an EPA estimated mpg 12 city/19 highway for the non-hybrid Escalade and an EPA estimated mpg 20 city/21 highway for the Escalade Hybrid."

Louie

Cadillac Commercial Confusion — Escalade Hybrid gets 20mpg city, 21 mpg highway!

The good news is there are a LOT of tweets lately on the social media site Twitter.com about the new Cadillac Escalade Hybrid. The bad news is that a lot of the audience is getting the message wrong. The base Cadillac Escalade is a full size SUV and gets 12 mpg city and 19 mpg highway as found on the Cadillac website

The Escalade Hybrid does much better, at 20 mpg city and 21 mpg highway.

So what are people saying after watching the commercial?

Cadillac Escalade hybrid - 12MPG Highway, 19MPG city. Scares me to think of the mileage it got PRE-hybrid

So an escalade hybrid would get 12 miles per gallon?

Reading the fine print of car commercials is painful to me. Example, the Escalade hybrid: 12 city/19 highway. Terrible, even for a hybrid

Cadillac’s ad agency needs to fix this quickly. You only get one chance to make a first impression. Apparently the commercial says the Escalade Hybrid gets 50% better city mpg than the non-Hybrid Escalade. The small print (thank you Lawyers!?) shows that this is relative to the non-Hybrid Escalade’s 13 mpg. People are reading the small print to mean that the Hybrid gets 13 mpg which is wrong. The Escalade Hybrid gets 20 mpg City. Woops.

 

[mobilguy66]

SUPERU.....I now understand a little more about the post...It was basically because of the commercial that drove you crazy....It was probably the second comment that started the bashing. I do own an older Denali which is very similar to the caddy. I bought it because I can afford it, and I can afford to put the fuel in it. I own a remote farm in upstate PA. and it has gotten me there in many a deep snow (it's AWD but I'd rather have 4WD like my Silverado Duramax) It is very plush, comfortable, smooth riding and problem free after 145,000 miles. It also allows me to tow my 5,000lb center console with ease and I can take the wife and 3 grandkids + gear. I have also used it to take 5 guys on a bear hunting trip(twice) to Richer Lodge, Quebec and about 100 miles of dirt roads. I could go on and on, but thats why I own two full sized GM products. I do believe this hybrid thing is somewhat of a joke especially the larger in size you go. I was suprized however how good the reviews are on them and motor week couldn't say enough about the hybrid Tahoe although again, I don't buy them for gas mileage alone. You didn't quite ruffle my feathers as much as the next guy and I'm not going to comment on that. I will say, like you, I am very frustrated. I consider myself a true American in every sense but when you see a well appointed vehicle come to market, it seems that many of the undesirable people get their hands on them and it makes some people look elsewhere because they don't want to be catagoriezed. On a side note, my daughter and family were rear ended in a horrble crash last year on the way to a wedding. Totally crumbled and all the windows blown out, luggage spewn all over the roadway... I was sick when I pulled up to the scene but they walked away and were in the troopers car when I got there. They were driving an Outback (and now a new one). Unbelievable!! Thanks for reading...

 

[Bella PSD]

I don't quite understand why you two guy's jump into the Domestic Full Size forum and BASH the Escalade because they don't get good fuel mileage and cost too much. There are alot of a lot of them on the road so it should be obvious why someone would want to pony up the money to cruise around in one. Two reasons I can think of is they don't want either a '05 Outback or an '89 Toyota. There is no need to come to this forum, BASH GM products, apologize, and then leave.

mobilguy66, don't take it to heart....I think Dave would even bash me if I went out and bought a 1989 Toyota! Or maybe my recent purchase this summer of a 2000 Tacoma that had to be bought back by Toyota. Why, because the frame rusted so bad I could put my hands into the rust holes! That Toyota was crushed and recycled. Maybe the steel was reused in the 2009 Cadillac Escalade hybrid??

 

[flywgn]

This post has nothing to do with the Escalade ad, so, at the risk of being off-topic, I'll add a comment about the larger vehicles.

We have our Excursion (V-10) for one reason—stuff. On our trips back and forth to our former house in Baja, there's no way that we could have carried the supplies and gear in our Xterra. The 'X' would have looked like one of those third-world trucks stacked high with persons and 'stuff'.

I look at a "Ton-mileage" figure more than the specific fuel economy of a 4WD vehicle. The payload of the Excursion is close to 2000 pounds. The X would crunch under that weight...and I imagine the Toys would do the same.

On a recent trip this past spring we were invited to join an archaelogical survey down in Utah. We jumped at the chance and chose to take the Excursion down instead of the Xterra. We all met in Blanding, four groups of two persons each. Four vehicles.

After dinner the night before the trip out, we discussed the logistics. Naturally, everyone wanted to drive his own tricked-out, expedition-type, off-road vehicle. With the exception of the double shocks in front and an extra spring in the rear, the Excursion is completely stock.

I mentioned to the group the fact that I had been over the route we planned to cover and saw no impediment to the Excursion. I suggested our 'carbon footprint' would be much less is we all went in our car.

There was resistance to this suggestion at first, but the result was that eight of us covered 142 miles of dirt road that day and used 12.2 gallons of gasoline. Eight adults and gear (some on top) for the day's trip.

That's efficient Ton-mileage.

Assuming the other three vehicles could have gotten 17 mpg over the same route, we saved 25 gallons of gas and spewed much less carbon into the air.

It seems to me that evaluation of any vehicle should focus on the purpose of its use. Our '01 Excursion has less than 60K miles on it. The '01 Xterra about 90K and the '98 Volvo XC70 about the same. I'm convinced that those 60K miles (and I probably can prove the point since I keep meticulous records) have been as fuel-efficient relative to Ton-mileage as the other two vehicles—perhaps even better.

I think the Escalade ad is specious at best, and not dissimilar to an ad I saw for another luxury Hybrid (not made in U.S.).

Allen R

 

[Schattenjager]

Just saw a commercial for a sclade hybrid boasting 50% better city mpg. The small print then says 12 mpg city and 19 hwy on the non hybrid 2WD model. It doesn't appear to be available in 4WD or AWD.

Now, that's something to brag about! Who buys these things besides aspiring rappers and NBA wannabees?

$72,865 - $76,585?

That just seems like a lot of coin for a tricked out Tahoe with Corvette magnetic suspension.

p.s. No offense to anyone on ExPo who owns one. Just my .02.

One of my clients owns a couple of stealerships that he is selling. He told me the the Caddy's depreciate faster than a new pair of cement shoes at a swim meet.

Thought that was pretty funny - esp. considering their huge markup for iffy build quality and durability. I guess some things are all about the bling.

That said, I have ridden in an Escalade and while I would never own one, I did find it comfortable and quite.

 

[masterplumber]

Schattenjager - it's funny that you mention resale value as that is propbably the main place the imports have the domestics beat. Not sure the reason as for most of what I use my trucks for there's not an import that could touch them including the new Tundra - just not heavy duty enough. That said I think all of the manufactures have made good & bad vehicles over the years.

Back to the resale value of domestics & specificly Caddilacs. We just hauled my wife"s grandparent's '88 seville home from CA. My brother in law gave it to us for our 16 year old to drive to school. Now get this - it's only got 31k miles on it & it's been garaged all it's life! It's a great car & so far we've been getting right at 20 mpg. Should be great for our son to drive to school & then his younger brother in a couple of years. The grandarents paid 36K for it new in '86 - even with the pristine condition & ultra low miles it's only worth $2500 tops - talk about depreciation. If it were a rusted out Toyota that smoked & had 200k on the odometer it would be worth more - go figure.

Just thought I'd add a real world example to the discussion - most people only keep their vehicles 3 - 5 years so the depreciation should also be looked at as part of the costs - my $.02
Doug

 

[eugene]

I have alot of reasons to bash GM's "trucks" from the last 10 years... Fuel milage is only one of them. To be fair, there are Full Sized domestics I like, for instance the Power Wagon and any Cumins powered Dodge. And who apologized???

Cheers

Dave

Actually GM's trucks are still top in mileage. Most people that bash them for mileage seem to overlook that fact.