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ColoDisco

Explorer
I spent a year sorting mine out before taking it off-road. I miss them both dearly as I put a lot of work into them. I will add that the D2 I am currently modifying I am lifting less (OME 1.5") and adding more modest mods as I felt the more I modded my D1's the less stable they were.
 
I think back to about 2years ago when I first got into land rovers everyone really had an opinion on what an overland vehicle should
Be , it seemed like the consensus was that you would just throw a buch of ARB parts on to what ever vehicles you had and $6000 dollars latter you had the perfect overland vehicle . Over the few months I think this is really changing now it's not much crap you have it's really how well your equipment works for you .

When I started on my D1 I followed the consensus starting with a Old Man Emu nitro chargers shocks and HD springs .
And while it's a good set up it doesn't exactly work for what I want .
With my D2 I built it the way I wanted, I found a good deal on a set on OME shocks but this time I went with Terrafirma MD springs and the ride is a lot better .

My suggestion is that if you go for a lift don't go more than 2" in.

I think people forget how good Land Rovers are as stock vehicles , a few months ago I watched the documentary on you tube about
the "Camel Trophy Land Rover Years" ( look it up it's awesome). My thinking was wait I really don't need a full ARB bull bar , these vehicles are doing just fine with minimal modification . I know the Camel Trophy did have some of the best off road drivers but still the vehicles took a beating and still were either repairable or kept rolling on .

Now my thinking on modification is that if it didn't come one a camel trophy vehicle maybe it's not needed ?
Also
I could add that the following shows on you tube have provided a unique insight on modification of both overland and 4x4 vehicles.
Check out :
4x Overland
Ronnie Dahl
Overland Bound
Expedition Overland

97 D1
01 D2
94 RRC

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3ics

New member
Very interesting feedback again and much for me to consider. I am focusing on maintenance at this point to feel comfortable taking it on road trips.

I have read about Ultra-gauge - seems common for Disco IIs. Have you guys thrown it on your Disco Is?
 

Ray_G

Explorer
I have read about Ultra-gauge - seems common for Disco IIs. Have you guys thrown it on your Disco Is?

Can't speak to ultra gauge, I have a scan gauge II mounted on my steering column behind the wheel. Awesome for code reading/clearing on the move but my fav part is getting a real # for coolant temp, you can see when the t-stat opens and such by watching the readings.

Not as cheap as a standard code reader but not a bad investment by any stretch.



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3ics

New member
Can't speak to ultra gauge, I have a scan gauge II mounted on my steering column behind the wheel. Awesome for code reading/clearing on the move but my fav part is getting a real # for coolant temp, you can see when the t-stat opens and such by watching the readings.

Ray_G -First I would like to say "Thank you" for your service. I have a ton of respect for the servicemen and servicewomen of the Armed Forces.
Second, thank you for providing feedback in my thread. I finished going through your thread the other night and just started reading about your D3. Awesome information and adventures shared!

My Disco is starting to show signs it has been sitting for a while, but I'm ok with it. After a few days, it threw a CEL light and during my inspection, the following codes were read;
P0300 - misfire multiple cylinder
P1193 - oxygen sensor heater circuit open downstream
P1316 - misfire excessive emissions fault

Now, I will admit a novice and this is my first vehicle where I want to turn the wrench myself. So based off my research, it looks like the O2 sensors will need to be changed. Seems like when I complete full maintenance items, some of these things should help. I am a little perplexed because some of the threads I have read regarding the codes, people have performance issues. I have not noticed anything.... yet. Lol
 

Ray_G

Explorer
Ray_G -First I would like to say "Thank you" for your service. I have a ton of respect for the servicemen and servicewomen of the Armed Forces.
Second, thank you for providing feedback in my thread. I finished going through your thread the other night and just started reading about your D3. Awesome information and adventures shared!

My Disco is starting to show signs it has been sitting for a while, but I'm ok with it. After a few days, it threw a CEL light and during my inspection, the following codes were read;
P0300 - misfire multiple cylinder
P1193 - oxygen sensor heater circuit open downstream
P1316 - misfire excessive emissions fault

Now, I will admit a novice and this is my first vehicle where I want to turn the wrench myself. So based off my research, it looks like the O2 sensors will need to be changed. Seems like when I complete full maintenance items, some of these things should help. I am a little perplexed because some of the threads I have read regarding the codes, people have performance issues. I have not noticed anything.... yet. Lol

So don't stress too much about those codes unless you are seeing significant performance issues; that said it is a good indicator that it is worth it to grab some Kingsborne wires and change the plugs in case those components are aging you know? The coil could be starting to go-or just have a loose wire-but start with the stuff that is a good chance to get to know your engine and get some grease on your hands.

As far as 02 sensors go; downstreams are worthless...I mean they are very important for the environment. Upstreams will have a very defined effect on the engine, downstreams not so much.

If/when you do decide to change the 02's though...get the socket and soak those bastards for awhile in PB; may be we worth grabbing a can of propane or MAP gas too since you may find yourself using every curse word in the book getting them off-or maybe that's just my bad luck. I'd rather pull apart a hub than mess with the damn 02's on Coyote.

As far as the service goes, thank you-I never know how to response to that. I love what I do and more importantly I love who I do it with; it is tough to understate how humbling and gratifying it is to serve with the young men and women who join-they are the best the nation has to offer and it makes it very easy to go to work everyday even when they are capable of some incredibly fool things!
r-
Ray
 
Well you defiantly need a tune up !

Some Kingsboure wires and NGK plugs should take care of the misfires .....if not look at the coil pack

As for the O2 sensors look at the NGK/NTK sensors on Amazon , there pretty cheap and have lasted me for about 2 years with no codes thrown.

And don't forget to do an oil change and good high mileage synthetic should make you D1 run like a sewing machine .

V/R

Tim

97 D1
01 D2
94 RRC


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3ics

New member
Update: Things have changed with family priorities and in an unplanned move, will be selling my Disco. If anyone in NJ area is interested, please contact me ASAP.

I have put about 3,000 miles on it since the summer, road trips up and down the turnpike, NYC rush hour traffic and played in the snow last week. New tires, current NJ inspection. I absolutely adore it and love it, but can't keep it.
 

Nonimouse

Cynical old bastard
I think people forget how good Land Rovers are as stock vehicles , a few months ago I watched the documentary on you tube about
the "Camel Trophy Land Rover Years" ( look it up it's awesome). My thinking was wait I really don't need a full ARB bull bar , these vehicles are doing just fine with minimal modification . I know the Camel Trophy did have some of the best off road drivers but still the vehicles took a beating and still were either repairable or kept rolling on .

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Although I agree with most of what you are saying, it's worth noting that the majority of the Camel Trophy drivers were not good drivers at all. Few had much experience. Much of that experience was based upon scenario's where vehicle sympathy simply didn't exist - like the military. Land Rover's own instructors at the time had little reason to teach mechanical sympathy and tended to treat the vehicles as if there was an endless supply of replacements. However this says even more about the stock vehicles. Driven over hard, over loaded and without any mechanical sympathy. The fact that the support teams would almost re-build a vehicle over night isn't highlighted in the videos. Nor is competitors, like Tim Dray, spending the night building diffs from broken diffs. But a broken diff is down to the driver not the vehicle. Keeping a vehicle near standard simply improves the drivers skills. Camel was impressive. It was special. But it was not perfect in any way.
 

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