Dry firing a CZ 452

[Hoosier 45]

Hi All,
I am starting to train my daughter how to shoot and was wanting to use my 452 with iron sights.

When I was growing up, back in the old days, we were alway told not to dry fire a rifle/shot gun. Have things changed? have better metalurgy and mfg. made this an old dads tail?

Do they even make snap caps for a .22??

Thanks

 

[SunTzuNephew]

You should not dry-fire a rimfire. Most centerfires are OK (a very few have unsupported firing pins that will peen their stops).

I don't recall ever seeing .22LR snap caps and a quick look at Brownells didn't turn them up, but if you don't have any empty cases, you can always just pull the bullets on a few rounds of ammo and dump the powder, and use the empty cases to support the firing pin. The primer going off the first time isn't significant at all - and you can just dump the powder in the sink, or demonstrate to your daughter that it just burns (unless the pressure is contained).

Have fun!

 

[Hoosier 45]

Thanks, My plan was to have her spend a while dry firing to work on sight picture and trigger squeeze.

I remember spending days doing the same at Pendleton and how effective it was for most.

 

[howell_jd]

Pachmayr makes snapcaps for virtually every caliber - including .22LR. You may find them conveniently on Amazon.com or elsewhere. I do not encourage using emptied ammo as it is possible to mix blank and live by confusion...snapcaps are readily identifiable and less easily mixed with live ammunition. I can relate dozens of stories of stripping magazines because of a report of blank and live ammunition mixed up during a training event following a qualification range. Obviously a live round through a blank adapter would ruin a day very quickly - same thing with an accidentally "live" .22LR during "dry" fire sight picture and trigger squeeze drills!

 

[SunTzuNephew]

Pachmayr makes snapcaps for virtually every caliber - including .22LR. You may find them conveniently on Amazon.com or elsewhere. I do not encourage using emptied ammo as it is possible to mix blank and live by confusion...snapcaps are readily identifiable and less easily mixed with live ammunition. I can relate dozens of stories of stripping magazines because of a report of blank and live ammunition mixed up during a training event following a qualification range. Obviously a live round through a blank adapter would ruin a day very quickly - same thing with an accidentally "live" .22LR during "dry" fire sight picture and trigger squeeze drills!

Well, a dead .22LR case looks quite a bit different than a live one, won't (usually) feed from any magazine (including tubular or box) and so would have to be carefully hand-loaded into the chamber.

Quite a bit different than military crimped 'blank' ammo that has the outward appearance (for certain values of appearance) of loaded ammo, and will load from a magazine.

I always make certain that before I do any dry-fire practice I put all live ammo (loaded mags, cartridges, etc) away - in a closed container. No point in being risky.

But, thanks for the tip about the .22LR snap caps. I'll look for some.

 

[slomatt]

It is safe to dry fire a CZ 452 since the bolt is designed so that the firing pin doesn't go past the bolt face. There are quite a few threads about this on rimfirecentral.com with discussion and details.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316110&highlight=dry+fire
http://www.benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47716

- Matt