FJ-60 / 62 Weight

[Schattenjager]

Anyone have a rough idea of what a mostly stock 60 or 62 would weight?
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[DaveInDenver]

Curb weight of the FJ60 is 4,246 lbs and FJ62 is 4,480 lbs in the owner's manual.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Since you are probably gonna ask, the FJ80 is 4,595 lbs and the FZJ80 is 4,760 lbs.

 

[bigreen505]

Not 100% sure why you are asking, but I can guess. You might also see if anyone has the approximate weight distribution.

 

[Schattenjager]

Thanks fellas! A buddy has found a really clean, mostly stock FJ 60 with a dead motor and, if he gets it, is considering a modern engine / transmission / entire drive train kinda transplant. I just wanted to make sure he did not over or under power the rigs other bits. He has a rebuilt 2000 Toyota V6 setup that needs a home. This would be a VERY interesting build, no?

 

[ntsqd]

Extending this a bit further, as I recall the GVW of my 60 is 5400 lbs. or about the net weight of my 1/2t '91 Suburban (shameless plug).

So a 2000 3.4L V6 and what trans? The offset rear diff makes using a late model transfercase difficult. Not sure about how to adapt anything LM to the existing transfercase. A centered diff is likely the easiest option. Something like this one starting at post #36.

 

[Grease Cruiser]

You can go with a Prado t-case and get the offset for the rear diff and have the right drop for the front differential.

If you go with a centered rear diff, you will have to swap the 3rd member to the other side of the front diff. Not a big deal but I would highly recommend going with the Prado t-case. Marlin may also make a rear offset t-case that will bolt to the transmission. I heard rumors of this but not sure if it exists.

This has all been done before. Check the ih8mud and pirate forums. It would make a nice swap and I bet you would get decent fuel mileage. The only complaint I have heard is that you lose the low end GRUNT that Cruisers are known for. With the right t-case setup, you can still accomplish this low end torque.

Good luck with it. Post pictures when you get it done.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

Though the drivetrain is lying around you can get similar mileage and a lot more power from say a fuel injected GM V8 and my $.02 is they are also easier to retrofit as well. But regardless that would be a killer setup. But is designed for a Tacoma, not a big truck like a Land Cruiser. That said it would be fine. Retail value would be diminished versus a fuel injected Chevy V8.

 

[ntsqd]

Marlin has an adapter that mates the Mini truck transfercase to the Autos that come behind the 3.4l's. That solves needing to move the front diff to the opposite side and makes a doubler or lower ratio t/c gears an easy thing to do.

 

[Schattenjager]

It seem that his V6 has both more power and torque than the stock, carb'd LC motor.

researching.....
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[dieselcruiserhead]

Agreed, but crucial to understanding torque is looking at the torque curve in particular, not how much but when. You'll see the LC motor has it come on really low (benis of a long strong engine like the F series) and combined with the inline 6, they are really gut buster torque engines. A lot like most diesels.. That said I still think it would be a good candidate. I know John (Grease Cruiser) has experience with a FJ45 with a Tacoma V6 in it. But that is a lighter truck. My only hesitation is weight, only, as I love that engine... But my concerns may be overrated...

 

[DaveInDenver]

Agreed, but crucial to understanding torque is looking at the torque curve in particular, not how much but when. You'll see the LC motor has it come on really low (benis of a long strong engine like the F series) and combined with the inline 6, they are really gut buster torque engines. A lot like most diesels.. That said I still think it would be a good candidate. I know John (Grease Cruiser) has experience with a FJ45 with a Tacoma V6 in it. But that is a lighter truck. My only hesitation is weight, only, as I love that engine... But my concerns may be overrated...

Yuri and Oleg over at Irbis Offroad are putting a 5VZ-FE into a FJ40 for a customer's partial restoration. This probably will work better because the FJ40 is a good 1,000 lbs or more lighter than a FJ60. Still think the small block Chevy is the way to go with a FJ60/62.

http://www.risingsun4x4club.org/forum2/showthread.php?t=7722

 

[kcowyo]

So how much more or less does a 60/62 weigh than a 3rd gen 4Runner or a whichever gen Tacoma has the 3.4ltr?

 

[DaveInDenver]

By the specifications, a third gen 4Runner weighed about 3,880 lbs.

Edit:
Model/Cruiser/4Runner/Diff/% Heavier
FJ60/4246/3880/366/9.43%
FJ62/4480/3880/600/15.46%
FJ80/4595/3880/715/18.43%
FZJ80/4760/3880/880/22.68%

Dunno what that means other than the 5VZ and the 2F and 3FE have similar max torque and fairly close HP (5VZ is higher), but like Andre says the F engines build torque much lower and seem different. I'd guess the 5VZ wouldn't end up pulling the FJ60 any slower than the 2F, but it probably won't be any quicker, either.

 

[dieselcruiserhead]

My guess is it might perform better on the highway than a 2F that bogs down at higher RPMs, but again less torque. Can be compensated for with gearing but even for day to day driving, torque is nice. As they say "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races"

Again I might be wrong about this whole thing but usually V6s are much higher revving streetable engines. My 3VZ-E V^(totally different engine) is a tuned reasonably powerful (no real complaints) but has piss poor low end torque and stalls easily. I even stall it here and there day to day driving... I couldn't imagine what it would be like in a heavier vehicle, the lack of weight of my truck is what makes it bearable...