jeepmedic46
Expedition Leader
Need to get a new muffler, Debating on either the super 44 or the off road. Looking for opinions.:smiley_drive:
Flowmaster 44 vs Flowmaser 44 off Road.
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Haggis
Appalachian Ridgerunner
I love my Flowmasters....on my '68 Buick. When asked by some young whippersnappers about what kind of stereo system my car has, my response was "Dual 3" Flowmasters. Who needs a stereo when you can listen to the rumble of a built V8." Besides stereo systems add weight and slow down quartermile times.
I don't think I'd mount a set on my daily driver though. On a dedicated trail rig or mud masher, heck yeah. But when I'm cruising the backwoods I perfer just to hear the crunch of the tires on the trail and the sounds coming from the woods. The Flowmasters have a nice "burple" at idle and easy cruising but bark like an open pipe when the throttle is mashed. Great on a hot rod, tiring on a daily driver or when your on a long trip. Plus they just don't sound right at the tail end of a V6. I'd do some checking out on a catback system from one of the exhaust manufacturers. That being said I don't really care for the drone of the Magnaflow stainlees steel systems. The one on my Dad's Titan is headache inducing.
I don't think I'd mount a set on my daily driver though. On a dedicated trail rig or mud masher, heck yeah. But when I'm cruising the backwoods I perfer just to hear the crunch of the tires on the trail and the sounds coming from the woods. The Flowmasters have a nice "burple" at idle and easy cruising but bark like an open pipe when the throttle is mashed. Great on a hot rod, tiring on a daily driver or when your on a long trip. Plus they just don't sound right at the tail end of a V6. I'd do some checking out on a catback system from one of the exhaust manufacturers. That being said I don't really care for the drone of the Magnaflow stainlees steel systems. The one on my Dad's Titan is headache inducing.
jeepmedic46
Expedition Leader
Any suggestions on mufflers? I really don't want to disturb the wildlife. I wasn't thinking.
Haggis
Appalachian Ridgerunner
Well I can't really help you there, my friend. Flowmasters are great mufflers and can take one heck of a beating, but they're not for everyone. I've had real good luck with all my Jeeps and Dodges and the factory system have lasted the life of the vehicles. So all my experience with exhaust and mufflers comes from making cars go as fast as possible from redlight to redlight. Not exactly ExPo usefullness. Hopefully some others will pipe in and offer some suggestions or experiences.
computeruser
Explorer
Rather like the locker issue, I think the question to be answered is what the current setup is failing to do. I know I'm not being much fun tonight!
Like Haggis, I'm of the mind that OEM quietness has a place on a backcountry vehicle unless there's something inherently wrong with the design or routing. Heck, I even pulled my cold air intake and went back to the stock setup because it sounded like a shop vac under the hood.
Having driven the Liberty quite a bit (round- and square-looking versions), I've never gotten the feeling that the exhaust was acting as a choke point. The engine revs freely, doesn't sound bad (actually, doesn't hardly sound at all!), and the only drawback of the stock setup, if memory serves, is the size and how the muffler kinda hangs down. For dealing with that, I think you'd be fine with any stock size inlet-outlet performance muffler that isn't too thick; the rest of the pipe system should quiet any rough edges on the sound, if present. Figure on a 3-chamber rather than 2-chamber muffler if you go with Flowmaster; 50series should work, I believe. Whatever you choose, go with stainless.
I've always been a glasspacks kinda guy more than the flowmasters. My 67 Camaro SS had dual glasspacks without an h-pipe, 400sb with a bit of a cam, and sounded absolutely awesome idling in a parking structure. It definitely sounded tougher than the 5.0/Flowmaster kids' cars. My 70 MG Midget also sounded killer with its single glasspack with dual resonator tips. There are a couple tunnels in the Detroit metro area that were always fun to run through, WOT, top down...
Like Haggis, I'm of the mind that OEM quietness has a place on a backcountry vehicle unless there's something inherently wrong with the design or routing. Heck, I even pulled my cold air intake and went back to the stock setup because it sounded like a shop vac under the hood.
Having driven the Liberty quite a bit (round- and square-looking versions), I've never gotten the feeling that the exhaust was acting as a choke point. The engine revs freely, doesn't sound bad (actually, doesn't hardly sound at all!), and the only drawback of the stock setup, if memory serves, is the size and how the muffler kinda hangs down. For dealing with that, I think you'd be fine with any stock size inlet-outlet performance muffler that isn't too thick; the rest of the pipe system should quiet any rough edges on the sound, if present. Figure on a 3-chamber rather than 2-chamber muffler if you go with Flowmaster; 50series should work, I believe. Whatever you choose, go with stainless.
I've always been a glasspacks kinda guy more than the flowmasters. My 67 Camaro SS had dual glasspacks without an h-pipe, 400sb with a bit of a cam, and sounded absolutely awesome idling in a parking structure. It definitely sounded tougher than the 5.0/Flowmaster kids' cars. My 70 MG Midget also sounded killer with its single glasspack with dual resonator tips. There are a couple tunnels in the Detroit metro area that were always fun to run through, WOT, top down...
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Clark White
Explorer
I have a Flowmaster on my Tacoma. I don't remember which muffler I have, but it's the quieter of the two available at the time, and I very rarely found it to be too loud to just cruising around the woods. That said, on the few occasions that I really wanted to be quiet, it was rather annoying. I'm considering putting one on the 4Runner, but more because the muffler is MUCH smaller then the OEM, and won't hang down nearly as far. It never hampered just passing through the forest though, only made it hard to sneak up on friends late at night :coffeedrink:
Clark
Clark
BKCowGod
Automotive ADHD is fun!
My only experience with glasspacks is on the 360 in my old pickup, and it was waaaay louder than the Flowmaster 40 on the current Heep.
Of course, giant pushrod V8's aren't quite the same as itty bitty 6's :victory:
Flowmaster also makes quiet mufflers, and I have been very happy with how their product holds up. I was not a fan of Magnaflow's replica of the Flow-40.
Of course, giant pushrod V8's aren't quite the same as itty bitty 6's :victory:
Flowmaster also makes quiet mufflers, and I have been very happy with how their product holds up. I was not a fan of Magnaflow's replica of the Flow-40.
computeruser
Explorer
They're not spark arrestor mufflers, so they are no-go in a lot of natural places.
IXNAYXJ
Adventurer
Look at a 50 series Flowmaster. I'm running a 40 and love the deep rumble from the 4.0 (I sometimes get asked how hard it was to get the V-8 in the XJ), but it is pretty loud; it's not for everybody. The 50 series has about 25% less rumble, but still a very pleasing sound.
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IXNAYXJ
Adventurer
Yup...I've seen guys get tickets at a couple different ORV/FS areas. No go on the glass-pack.
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chrslefty
Observer
i have the regular 40 in my jeep with 2.5 all the way back . i dont think that its overly loud . it dose have a bit of drone but so do my mud trains . but i have a differnt motor than the op . but to answer there question i dont think you could go wrong with either one ,as the origional has proven its self to be quite durabal off road . theres also the hush power from flowmaster that looks like it has a pretty small profile . hope that it helps .
calamaridog
Expedition Leader
Is yours rusted or dented?
jeepmedic46
Expedition Leader
Small hole in my muffler.:smiley_drive: