Full-size camping/towing/house chores/daily driver rigs

Overdrive

Adventurer
My thoughts, Look around and see what is being used in the ruff and tuff comercial area. You see mostly Fords, got to ask your self why?
3 reasons. 1. Brand Loyalty; 2. excellent advertising by Ford geared towards this market; 3. Favorable lease rates/lower pricing for business customers.

You just dont see Dodges working for a living, again ask your self why?
I see FAR MORE Dodges working for a living. Lots of older ones, too...because they just keep running. When I do see a Ford working, it's usually a newer one.

18 wheelers use inline six's (not V-8's) almost exclusively. Got to ask yourself why.

There's at least one shop (www.FordCummins.com) that does nothing but installs and selling kits for putting Cummins into Fords. If anyone knows of a shop that exists soley to swap Powerstrokes or Duramaxes into Dodges, let me know.
Scott
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
Were I going to build a truck it would be a 6BT powered F-250 CC short bed.
Were I going to buy a truck it would be a 7.3t powered F-250 CC short bed.

The Cummins is a great engine, but it comes wrapped in sheet metal that I do not care for. I've been impressed by a chipped D-Max, but I don't want one.

For any given power output level the engine with the greater displacement is not working as hard. In a tow rig that translates into miles of service.
 

Capt Sport

Adventurer
The Chevys are definite plush and nice rides, but to get the most offroad, people tend to do a solid axle conversion on them

Big Diesel Truck,

You make a good point a lot of people do the SAS on Chevy's, but usually it for trucks that have ridiculous lifts and great big tires. And, I agree if your going mud bog'n or rock crawling than a SAS makes sense. Why on earth you'd want to crawl with such a big truck is beyond me, I have a hard time getting my Jeep thru some of the trails I've run. My point is if your like the vast majority of people that have these trucks you will use your truck more reasonably, as the vast majority that I see don't have huge lifts/tires and aren't out crawl'n/bog'n. Most of them are used for towing the toys, and for me if I'm going to be sitting in the truck for a while I want it to be comfy. Hey I getting soft in my old age! lol

I'll trust iron block/iron head vs iron block/aluminum heads

I usually subscribe to this logic as well, however I have no interest in cranking up the power on my truck and stock they've proven quite reliable.

as good as the Allison is, I prefer a good handshaker

Once, again I agree with you. However, doesn't sound like you've ever had to deal with SoCal traffic. When first I moved there I got a Fiero GT with a standard and loved it, except in traffic it was a PIA.

Oh and FYI the Duramax is a Medium duty engine, its used in the Chevy Kodiak trucks. ;)

And for the record if I could build my own Expedition truck I'd take an Isuzu NPR swap in a Cummins, backed by an Allison, with a Dana 60 front with an Atlas T-case. Put a nice camper on the back and of course a comfy seat and I'd be all set! :smiley_drive:

Naw, actually Isuzu was behind by about 17 years.

Overdrive,

There's one in every crowd and usually it me, Touche good sir!
 

El Guapo

Observer
I vote for a 7.3L Ford. The Cummins is nice, but most HD Dodge trucks are made in mexico.


and your point is???? (not a Dodge fan, in fact am a Ford fan all the way but i find your statement a bit curious). Please ellaborate and i'll add my $0.02 :coffee:
 

bigdieseltruck

Observer
I usually subscribe to this logic as well, however I have no interest in cranking up the power on my truck and stock they've proven quite reliable.

EFI live is all I have to say. Us Dodge guys and the Ford owners have nothing that comes close to the tuning it offers the GMs.

Oh and FYI the Duramax is a Medium duty engine, its used in the Chevy Kodiak trucks. ;)

True, true. But the most prolific OTR Big rigs run inline sixes. Definitely tells you something.

And for the record if I could build my own Expedition truck I'd take an Isuzu NPR swap in a Cummins, backed by an Allison, with a Dana 60 front with an Atlas T-case. Put a nice camper on the back and of course a comfy seat and I'd be all set! :smiley_drive:

Once I get a decent performance lift, self-welded rock sliders and full skid plates, 37" tires, Softopper canvas bed cap, freespin front hubs, and ARB front and rear lockers, I think I'll be close to my dream truck. Should last a long time with the annual Boeshield frame treatment I give it and the extra fuel and oil filtering (bypass) I perform down to 2 micron.

It has seen Cape Cod beach and rocky forest trails at Rausch Creek PA OHV park (wide green trails only). It performed well enough for my tastes.

-Chris
 

masterplumber

Observer
If you don't mind a little older iron I'd try to find a low mileage '95 to '97 Ford F350 powerstroke. Try & get a manuel or plan on a rebuild but the autos can be made much stronger once you rebuild. You won't get the intercooler unless it's aftermarket & a little less power than the newer ones but still plenty. My '95 gets 15 mpg with a four wheel popup & gear grossing 9500 - 10,000 lbs. The worst I've ever got was 10 mpg & that was towing 10,000 lbs of horses & trailer over passes here in Colorado including about 100 miles of 4x4 & mud. I've loaded it to a combined gvw of 21k & still pulled a 7% grade at 45 mph while keeping the exhaust temps at 1200 degrees. All this to say it's a reliable work horse that is still comfortable for 5 men to ride in for 7 hrs straight & now the best part - the price on these years is down to under $12k for low mileage clean ones & under $6k for work trucks.
 

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I just watched all of the videos. Excellent info!! I'm gonna pass it on and bookmark the site!!

x2 - there are a bunch of other videos on there that are worthwhile too. cool stuff.
 

RocKrawler

Supporting Sponsor
Were I going to build a truck it would be a 6BT powered F-250 CC short bed.
Were I going to buy a truck it would be a 7.3t powered F-250 CC short bed.

The Cummins is a great engine, but it comes wrapped in sheet metal that I do not care for. I've been impressed by a chipped D-Max, but I don't want one.

For any given power output level the engine with the greater displacement is not working as hard. In a tow rig that translates into miles of service.
Amen
 

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