Grand Cherokee fails one "Moose Test," passes another

haven

Expedition Leader
Teknikens Värld, a Swedish car magazine, is claiming that the 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland failed its high speed swerve test. This is also known as the Moose Test, because it's what you'd do if suddenly a moose walked out onto the road ahead of you.

For the test, the magazine staff inflated the tires to recommended pressure, and loaded the car with five adults and enough sandbags to bring the SUV up to its full load rating (about 1600 lb). Then, with all safety systems switched on, they drove through the swerve test course at faster and faster speeds. At just about 40 mph, the swerve maneuver tipped the Grand up on two wheels. Similar SUVs (BMW X5, Volvo XC90, VW Touareg) have passed this test without incident at speeds higher than 40 mph.

Here's the page with a video of the test http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest/
Kudos to the cameraman for continuing to film while 6500 lb of out-of-control SUV barrels toward him!

The magazine points to the Overland edition's tire and wheel package (265/50 on a 20 inch rim) as a contributing factor. In the test movie, it looks like the rear tire folds under to the point where the edge of the rim touches the pavement.

Chrysler disputes the claim, saying they were unable to recreate the problem. Chrysler thinks there was something fishy with the test procedure.
 

SSF556

SE Expedition Society
"Lethal" is a "little" over dramatic.....any vehicle can be compromised if the situation is "right".

Wonder how many Expo vehicles driven by people on this site would pass the "moose test"? That may be lethal....
 

alexfm

Explorer
"Lethal" is a "little" over dramatic.....any vehicle can be compromised if the situation is "right".

Wonder how many Expo vehicles driven by people on this site would pass the "moose test"? That may be lethal....

I dunno, my Cherokee seems to handle pretty well going sideways. Stupid rain and wet parking lots.

but on a more serious note, that is still an issue, especially when you consider the average guy taking his family somewhere probably isn't paying too much attention tot the weight rating of his big, shiny, new SUV, and fills it full of all the crap he thinks he'll need. When I was in high school, I was on the robotics team for a while, and we needed to drive from El Paso to Dallas for a competition. Our teachers rented a pair of Ford E150 passenger vans, and proceeded to stuff them full with 20+ kids, 8 adults, and all our "luggage", plus tools and equipment for the robot. Saying those vans were grossly overloaded would be an understatement. Not to mention those teachers had pretty heavy right feet, we were coasting at like 80 the whole way. Definitely glad I only did that twice, and only because I had to.
 

1stDeuce

Explorer
I'm throwing the BS flag. My former job was working with the stability control system in that very vehicle, and it's good, and tested over and over and over for compliance to FMVSS 126, which is basically the same maneuver as the moose-avoidance. Of course, that testing was done with 4 water dummies, not with 4 real dummies in the car. Watching the video, the stability system isn't kicking in at all from what I see, which means that it was either disabled, or not working right. You should see the outside tire go pretty much to lock as the maneuver is run, and I don't see it happening.

I'm not even sure a mild overload could cause that unless they put all the rear weight up at roof height. Perhaps the back seat passengers were all ladies, and a little... er... Top heavy?
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Binksman

Observer
There was an update from the magazine regarding the weight and load during the test.

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest-part3/

At issue, rather than performing the test wrong, or a poorly designed car, is a error with the weight sheets on the car. Even then, I would be very unhappy with any vehicle that handled like that because of an extra 110 lbs/skinny girlfriend/wife's purse/large dog/etc...
 

DaJudge

Explorer
How are these, BMW X5, Volvo XC90, VW Touareg, similar in anyway? They have four doors and a hatch?
 

1stDeuce

Explorer
How are these, BMW X5, Volvo XC90, VW Touareg, similar in anyway? They have four doors and a hatch?

?? So does a 2012 Grand Cherokee, so I guess you answered your own question. Hahaha
But seriously, in Europe, I can only assume that the GC is on par with those vehicles, in that it's considered high end and frivolous. I'm still calling the BS flag on the fail. Something was fishy.
 

Utah KJ

Free State of Florida
Everyone knows you're not supposed to swerve to avoid an animal.... silly candy fish makin' people.
 

Mrknowitall

Adventurer
Everyone knows you're not supposed to swerve to avoid an animal.... silly candy fish makin' people.
You're not supposed to swerve for most animals. Aside from an on-coming log truck, anything is better than a moose to the windshield.
I'm very surprised how consistently they managed to blow tires. Do Swedish market Jeeps perhaps wear different tires?
 

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