Hand Held CB Question...

NewFoundFreedom

Adventurer
I am getting a CB and was looking at several differnt options. I like the idea of the hand held unit with no cords and being able to take it with me in other rigs and walking if needs be. Is anyone running this sort of set up? If so what brand and specs please. Also any input would be great on what to get as I am new to this I would like to get some info on the best set ups so I dont go wrong and have to upgrade later.

Thanks.:costumed-smiley-007
 

NewFoundFreedom

Adventurer
now reading a little more on the forums about the HAM Radios. Do they work with the CB channels? I know that might be a stupid question but what the hell. Should I just skip the CB and go ham and get the Lic. to do it?
 

crawler#976

Expedition Leader
Nope, ham radios are not usable on CB freq's.

I don't recommend a hand held CB for vehical use. The range is limited to several hundred yard inside a truck unless you can use an external antenna. If you want reliable CB comms, get a standard CB and a good antenna - the best one you can afford. I tend to buy the cheapy CB's after having very limited sucess keeping them working in an off highway environment. At $40 to $50 bucks they are expendible...

Do most of the people to travel with have CB's or Ham radios? If you travelling companions don't use licenced ham equipment it's a waste of money - unless you want to be involved in a new hobby.

Mark
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
NewFoundFreedom said:
I am getting a CB and was looking at several differnt options. I like the idea of the hand held unit

There are a few handheld CB's radios on the market. The COBRA 38 WXST,
Midland 75-822, Cobra HH-Roadtrip, Uniden pro340XL.

I like the midland, it has both a battery pack for portable use and a second pack with a cigerett light plug on it to power it from an vehicle.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
NewFoundFreedom said:
now reading a little more on the forums about the HAM Radios. Do they work with the CB channels? I know that might be a stupid question but what the hell. Should I just skip the CB and go ham and get the Lic. to do it?


Both ham radio and CB have there place. CB is license free anyone Us citizen can use them. ham radio is a licensed service and everyone needs a license.
 

NewFoundFreedom

Adventurer
none of the people I go with use the Ham so I guess that takes care of that. Another question is if I go handheld and get the extra external antenna is it as good as a dash mounted one?
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
I carry a Cobra Road Trip handheld -

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It's range is the only limiting factor. With the external anntennae mounted on the roof it gets decent range, maybe a mile or two.

The upside is you can use it outside the vehicle to spot a fellow driver or if you have to walk out for help. On a trip last year a friends CB mic crapped out on him. I lent him my handheld ( I also have a Cobra 75 WXST hardmounted in the truck) and we were able to communicate all week on the trail just fine.

When not in use, it's small enough to store in a console or glove box. They are a bit cumbersome to hold onto, especially if you're driving a stickshift, but it's a good portable solution for CB users.
 

01001010

Adventurer
I also looked into Handheld CBs not too long ago but decided I would stick to my Motorola T6500s. Great little radios and in the right conditions, you can get way over 2+ mile range....rechargable, compact, weather channel, vibe-alert for when the music and ambient sounds are somewhat loud, different color interchangable faceplates to keep them identified...can't go wrong.
 

gary in ohio

Explorer
The FRS radio's are good short range radio's as well, but pretty worthless if everyone else is on CB. Luckly the FRS radio are so cheap you buy a bunch of them and hand them out to the rest of your convoy.
 

Lynn

Expedition Leader
Oops. A couple of people beat me to it, while I was drafting a lenghthy reply. Oh, well, here it is anyway:

Have you considered FRS radios?





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Here's my story:

Several years ago I bought a couple of Cobra handheld CBs for caravanning. I ended up buying external, mag-mount antennas b/c the low-freq CB signal doesn't penetrate the auto glass very well (get's trapped inside the cab). With just the 'rubber ducky' antenna you can talk to someone a few feet away, but not sufficient for vehicle-to-vehicle.

Then I bought cigarette lighter plugs for them because they went through the 6 AA's so fast.

Then because of the cords hanging off of them, I bought hand-held mics.

And, of course, I bought two of everything because I caravanned with different people and need a 'loaner.'

I quit using 'em, partly because having to set everything up was a pain, but mostly because there are so many idiots out there with CBs that just want to mess with you. While we were having a friendly conversation, idiots would burst in with profanity, insults, or just garbled mumbo-jumbo. I guess they thought it was funny.

In the last couple of years I've been using FRS (Family Radio Service) radios. They are much higher frequency, so work well between two cars with just the built-in antenna. I think that they have slightly better range just using the built-in antennas than the old CBs did with external antennas. They are also much lighter and more convenient than the old handheld CBs. Oh, and the three AAs that they use last a whole lot longer than the 6 AAs the CBs ate.

FRS radios also typically have what they call 'security codes' that can be used to keep the idiots at bay.

Further reading for anyone interested:

FWIW, I think 'security codes' is a misnomer, because they don't provide any security; what you say on the radio is still broadcast so that anyone with a radio or scanner can hear it. It's not like its encrypted or something.

What they do, instead, is allow one radio to only 'hear' other radios that are currently using the same security code. 'Selective Hearing' would be a better name for it.

It is a handy feature for keeping the idiots at bay, but don't assume that it provides any sort of security. Don't say anything on any radio that you might later regret. ;)

Also, be aware that many radios provide 22 channels, but if you read the fine print, the lower channels (1-14) are FRS, and the upper channels (15-22) are GMRS (Ground Mobile Radio Service). You are supposed to have an FCC-issued license to use the GMRS channels, but that fact isn't always obvious when you buy the radios.
 

1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
I found the midland handheld when used with an external mag mount antenna gave great range and was easy to use.
I comes with a cig lighter & battery pack and takes about 1-2 min to switch between inside & outside setups..Total cost will be around $125 for radio & antenna
If you can give up the walking around idea then this is even better for $75 total
http://www.walcottcb.com/combination-pro510xl-cb-radio-k30-antenna-plug-p-1010.html

On the family band issue....I love'em...I wish more people used them on the trail since they are cheap for newbies, clear since on FM, light and simple to use inside & out...hae decent range if your group is small or stays together and can get weather alerts...

Of course most of the folks I run with have cb since that is the defacto device. I have recently gotten my ham lic and and now looking to run with more hams (I really dig the clarity and range...20-30 miles, plus repeaters) or I need to convince my group to setup to ham.

Anyway more thoughts for ya...in the end you should use what your group uses or carry some extra family radios for others.
enjoy
1leglance
 

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