Hella 700FF's Video Review Parts 1, 2, & 3

TheAlmightySam

Adventurer
put the relays back in. you're going to burn out your switches

Seriously. Those cheap switches Hella gives you are not rated to handle the kind of amperage those lamps are going to eat.

If you want, I can put together a quickie wiring diagram to get those relays working right.
 

Boost Creep

Adventurer
hella includes a good diagram with their lights. all you need to do is if you want to run without being hooked to your headlights is to follow their instructions for everything except where they show to connect the switch to the headlights, put that wire(fused light green wire if i remember right) right to the battery. if its still not working, just check to make sure the fuses are still good. might have popped one
 

AA1PR

Disabled Explorer
hella includes a good diagram with their lights. all you need to do is if you want to run without being hooked to your headlights is to follow their instructions for everything except where they show to connect the switch to the headlights, put that wire(fused light green wire if i remember right) right to the battery. if its still not working, just check to make sure the fuses are still good. might have popped one

The instructions I got with mine showed two ways of installing the lights & both had the relay inline either to the high beam or the low beams as a source of 12v+

they do not provide a diagram or schematic for installing direct

I even tried to get the green wire off a 12v source to connect to the back of the switch where the yellow to complete the circuit & nothing

I did everything according to the instrctions & still nothing, good fuses, good connectins through all wires & so forth ???

I had continuity across the red & black on the relays only, I wonder if the relays were no good. I know the 12v has to trigger the relay to send 12v to the black wire for the lamps, but not here

after messing with these & my back getting the best of me I did it this way


"thealmightysam" would appreciate a diagram :) if you PM me I will send you my email address
 

TheAlmightySam

Adventurer
Boost Creep's got it right. 12V+ to the green wire with everything else as Hella describes will let the lights run independently.

That said, I find Hella's included diagrams to be hard to read. Here's a quickie diagram of how I'd wire them, which is following Boost Creep's advice above and follows Hella's unusual wiring color conventions.

Fog%20Lamp%20Wiring%20Diagram.png


If you indeed had continuity across pins 30 and 87 (that's the red and black wires according to Hella), then there is indeed something wrong with your relays. I find it doubtful that you'd get two bad relays, though... that'd be a hell of a coincidence, though possible, I suppose. You should, however, have continuity across pins 85 and 86 (blue and yellow in Hella parlance).
 
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AA1PR

Disabled Explorer
Boost Creep's got it right. 12V+ to the green wire with everything else as Hella describes will let the lights run independently.

That said, I find Hella's included diagrams to be hard to read. Here's a quickie diagram of how I'd wire them, which is following Boost Creep's advice above and follow's Hella's unusual wiring color conventions.

Fog%20Lamp%20Wiring%20Diagram.png


If you indeed had continuity across pins 30 and 87 (that's the red and black wires according to Hella), then there is indeed something wrong with your relays. I find it doubtful that you'd get two bad relays, though... that'd be a hell of a coincidence, though possible, I suppose. You should, however, have continuity across pins 86 and 87 (blue and yellow in Hella parlance).

thank you I appreciate this schematic & it is how I tried to wire them up originally

I had nothing across the yellow and blue on the relay though I would have thought the circuit would need to be closed for red & black to make contact by/from power from teh green wire (12v)

when you throw the switch the green wire should pull some current (voltage activate the relay) through the yellow wire at the relay and allow the 12v + (black wire) to flow back to the lights for output

this was not my case,

the only thing I did differently was to ground every ground to the battery ground instead of the frame or body ground, so I had one common ground that I knew was a definite

I will have to call jegs were I ordered them to see if they have had any other complaints about bad relays, since it has to be that

if I was not out in the country & autoparts stores were more readily available I would have opted to exchange them out locally before doing what I did

thank you for the help, I knew I was not crazy
 

AA1PR

Disabled Explorer
I called jegs & they referred me to Hella & now there are 2 new relays in the mail in their way
 

AA1PR

Disabled Explorer
I got sick of waitign & went to middlebury & picked up a pair locally

got 2 new relays in & wired it back up through the relays & it works !!!!!!!!!

hard to believe 2 bad ones right out of the box

at least when I get the other 2 from hella I will have spares
 

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