HID and LED bumper vs roof rack location?

Abitibi

Explorer
Curious,

Any advantage in mounting HID vs LED on the front bar (same height as headlights) or a roof bar (just above windscreen)? I can see LED on a roof bar might work better when used as a work light or to light up camp area when vehicle is off but can the light pattern of either type of lights be maximized depending on their location?

If that makes any sense...
;-)

Thanks
Mr. D
 

alaskantinbender

Adventurer
It does depend on when and for what you want the lights for.
The stock bumper mounted lights on my Jeep JK enabled me to see the road in Alaska winter conditions when my higher headlights where almost useless in heavy snow.

regards

jim
 

88Xj

Banned
Ya conditions will matter. Honestly I think you need a mix of LED & HID's. I was rocking 7" Kragen HId's until someone thought they needed them more. They were spot & I had Euro's, all 4 stolen. Anyway lesson learned..I now tack weld all the nuts holding on my lights. But the HID's were both models 55w..the Euros were the better pattern..very slightly distance difference & the Euro had much more useable light. Anyway it was shooting and easy 500-600 ft off my bumper. Jeep xj 3" and 31's stock bumper for height refference. It would easily out shine a 30 E series for distance but the Eseries was obviously much brighter from 0-300/400ft or so. I now run a 40" on my roof..my own brand LED, 40" single row. and a 20" and 2 pods on my bumper. Those pods & the 20 are being replaced by a amber or yellow 10" bar (also my own brand) and 2 Hella 4000's converted to HID's.
I personally think you need a mix of both if you use them often! Here in the desert the LED's are king for anything in the 400ft range..after that HID's take the cake. I run both because I like to see everything..I don't NEED the HID's at all..I don't go desert racing to NEED to see 500-700ft in front of me..theres just no need in my personal case! For me its more of a want..my horse is bigger than your horse type deal.
Also with HID's they blu-ish hue..even at 55W and 5000K color they are still blue-ish. Out in the dust of the desert it almost blinds you by reflecting back off the particles in the air. Now I don't have scientific results or reasoning but I've ridden in my rig with just LED's..its not as bad with the reflectiveness but still does it. With a Yellow lens/filter on the LED's its even less..with the AMBER idk what it is, but with the amber lens/filter the reflection is literally none. Idk if its cause the lights similar color to the dust being thrown around or what.
But amber cuts dirt/dust sooo much better..its almost one of the thinks that you need to see to understand!
 

Abitibi

Explorer
Thanks for the input!

As it stands the front of my truck is all HID simply because those were THE lights to have before LED came up on the market (or became affordable!). I have three HID Lightforce with amber filter on my front bar and five Kragen clear lens on my roof bar. LED are on sides and back.

I'll trade some of my Kragen for LED so they can be used as work light without draining my batteries but I just wondered if the LED would be better mounted lower than on the roof for driving condition. I live in a rain forest so no deserts to worry about, just a lot of rain in the winter and some snow when I head up in the mountains (that's why I love the amber or orange lenses!)

Cheers
Mr. D
 

88Xj

Banned
Thanks for the input!

As it stands the front of my truck is all HID simply because those were THE lights to have before LED came up on the market (or became affordable!). I have three HID Lightforce with amber filter on my front bar and five Kragen clear lens on my roof bar. LED are on sides and back.

I'll trade some of my Kragen for LED so they can be used as work light without draining my batteries but I just wondered if the LED would be better mounted lower than on the roof for driving condition. I live in a rain forest so no deserts to worry about, just a lot of rain in the winter and some snow when I head up in the mountains (that's why I love the amber or orange lenses!)

Cheers
Mr. D


LED's should be roof mounted I think..they throw more USEABLE light. Obviously it won't be "bright" than bumper mounted, but because its 3-4ft higher up it will light up more around you! Now maybe I can work something out with you on those Kragens for some LED's. I don't offer china cheap brand..these lights are BRIGHT & are legit. Ip67 rated and all. Pm me if you'd like?
 

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