Jeep Renegade concept

haven

Expedition Leader
Jeep is showing a diesel-electric hybrid vehicle at the Detroit Auto Show this week.

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The Renegade has two electric motors, one for each axle. Fully charged, the batteries are supposed to provide 40 miles of driving. There's a small turbocharged Bluetec diesel on board to power a generator, extending the driving range when the batteries are depleted. As befits a proper Jeep, the concept has low range and locking differentials.

Jeep is showing this electric motor drive in several other vehicles, so they may be serious about using it in some future vehicle.

Chip Haven
 

Oman4x4

Laurie Bridger
I do like the looks of this one... but is it just me or is it starting to sound like they're running out of ideas for names?
 

haven

Expedition Leader
40 miles

40 miles on battery power alone isn't so bad. People living in urban or suburban areas mostly make round trips of 10 miles or less.

I expect that the Renegade's battery pack can be recharged from a 110V or 220V AC circuit in your garage. So you can plug in when you return home, and be ready to go the next morning.

The trade-off for longer trips, of course, is the weight of the batteries. That's where the internal combustion engine comes in. The difference in this design is that, unlike the Prius and other hybrid cars of today, the Renegade's diesel engine doesn't drive the wheels. It powers a generator that takes over for the batteries.

Diesel-electric hybrids are not a new idea. It's the system that powers modern locomotives and those super large capacity haul trucks used in open pit mining. Electric motors are useful in these applications because they can be scaled up to just about any size, and they produce maximum torque at zero RPM -- Just the ticket to get a mile-long freight train moving.

The question to ask is whether an electric drivetrain makes sense for a Jeep. There is lots of low speed torque for off-road obstacles, and having two electric motors means you can make it home if you have trouble with one. The electric motors also work to slow the vehicle, so mechanical brakes don't have to be as large. Extra care would have to be given to waterproofing the motors for water crossings, but once properly sealed, the electric motor could power you across a water obstacle without the need for snorkle or raised engine exhaust outlet.

This type of diesel-electric hybrid doesn't need a transmission, since the electric motors can run from stop to the Jeep's top speed without the help of gear ratios. I'm curious why Jeep added a mechanical low range to the Renegade. Perhaps it allows the electric motors to be smaller, lighter and more efficient in use of battery power.

The US military is experimenting with vehicles that have electric motors at each wheel. This means no axles or drive shafts. You could create the effect of a mechanical locker by electronically matching the RPM of the wheels on opposite sides of the truck. The military likes how quiet the electric vehicle is and how low its heat signature is when running on battery power.

Chip Haven
 

madizell

Explorer
Sports car wheel travel. Low profile highway tires. Two seater with no cargo room. Open car. As a hot rod it sounds okay, if far too anemic, but as an off road vehicle it won't be of much use, so why bother with low range? Executed with today's technology, the concept would cost somewhere around $50K. Not something I would buy, when I could get two Mini Cooper S for the same price.
 

86cj

Explorer
Seems like the Jeep concept guys really got a good deal going with their boss man.........

I mean they build "Real" concept stuff that is never going to get built, but are allowed to shake the bugs out too....The drivetrain on the recent Hurricane concept with 2 Hemi's must have been fun to work on...and Drive!!!

Look at all the concept cars and trucks from big money companys that don't even run, or some basic stuff like doors that don't work.


I also heard that the military wants the electric motor on each wheel because of issues with bombs and drivetrain protection under the trucks.........
 

madizell

Explorer
If anyone is interested in seeing an all electric, and a hybrid gas/electric combo, that is about ready for the market, check out the Aptera. Not an off-road vehicle. But it uses much of the same technology and gets far better range and speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Ke1VWhZJA

120 mile range instead of 40, and with the gas generator hybrid, it gets 130 to 300 mpg and range limited only by the gas tank, depending on how you want to rate performance.
 

pete.wilson

Adventurer
Hey

Haven writes: "40 miles on battery power alone isn't so bad. People living in urban or suburban areas mostly make round trips of 10 miles or less".


Nothing like a idiot engineer designs a Jeep that can't even make it out of town much less on the trail! And we think this is OK? Just because it has locking diff's and low range. If Jeep really wants to sell some vehicles; come out with something like a full-size Gladiator look pick-up with the big new Cummins diesel! Or on a smaller size, the JK in pickup form like we have seen with a good common rail diesel. That will boost Jeep sales even more! The commander would have been good if it were a bit bigger than it was and more off-road capable, same for the grand cherokee (I love my 99 with V8, but tires are too small). Sign of the times I guess.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
BAH!!! Jeep had GREAT concept vehicles it did nothing with namely the Rescue (Honestly...that one could well have made me step back into a Jeep) and the GLadiator

As of yet they have done nothing but put an awsome chasis(the Rubicaon drivetrain namely) under a truck with a car's motor... Between ditching the 4.0 (how about a NEW straight six... BMW seems to know how) and losing the LJ Wb/body, Jeep is really not doing it for me. I'd also like to know why only the GC got the Diesel (and it may well be the LEAST off-road worthy GC in forever)

I guess there will be some solace in knowing that this to will never make it either...
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Like almost every concept in recent history, I think this rig was created just to show off the technology and some new design ideas.
 

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