Lucky8's Quick and dirty swivel ball grease install

[Fivespddisco]

Here's a quick look on how to fill your swivel balls with grease.

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[cruiseroutfit]

What kind of grease are you putting back in place? Land Cruisers have a similar knuckle construction but came from the factory with grease rather than lube, more important is that the right type of grease be used (in the LC). Interested to know the specs on the stuff your using.

 

[blue bomber]

This is a grease is a gear oil and grease slurry. The land rovers have a dynamic seal with a garter spring and a polished surface. The cruiser, as you are aware uses "wipers" and the ball surface isn't smooth. Requiring a more heavy grease.The rover set up has advantages be that it's sealed completely, allowing the use of a more liquid lube. The the cruiser set up disadvantage is that once the grease gets pushed out from between the ball, cage and bell it cannot be replenished.
Does that make sense.


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[cruiseroutfit]

This is a granite gear oil slurry. The land rovers have a dins mic seal with a garter spring and a polished surface. The cruiser as you are aware uses "wipers" and the ball surface isn't smooth. Requiring a more heavy grease.The rover set up has advantages be that it's sealed completely, allowing the use of a more liquid lube. The the cruiser set up disadvantage is that once the grease gets pushed out from between the ball, cage and bell it cannot be replenished.
Does that make sense...

Fully understand that, I'm simply asking what the specs are on the grease as I like the pre-packaged tubes and it might be a great way to pack grease on the trail for axle work. Sealed completely eh? Remind me why he is adding thicker grease?

Your disadvantage of the Cruiser axle is noted, but simply de-greasing of the birf isn't a common scenario, rather high miles wear the inner axle seal or inner axle seal surface and gearlube migrates from the axle (diff) into the knuckle, the grease in the knuckle gets diluted and starts weeping out the wipers. Inner axle seals generally get 100-150k miles, some far more, some far less depending on the type of uses, amount of use in 4WD, etc. I'm not hear to debate or even discuss axle design types, neither here nor there. I'm curious on the grease. Grease supply for a knuckle overhaul is a non-issue in the shop but I like the idea of pre-packaged grease field fixes, again why I'm after the specs, looking for a #2 moly based.

 

[blue bomber]

Crusier cv straight out that has been washed by leaking inner axle seal.

Ancient rover swivel ball surface.
The reason for the leakage on rovers is upper swivel pin wear causing movement and dirt getting impacted under the sealing lip. All early defenders and RR's had bearings on the upper and lower. These seals last a very long time. With the advent of wheel speed sensors ,Rover devised a hollow bushing arrangement. Providing a place to pick individual wheel speeds. In my early rig I converted to double bearings like the cruiser. With the advantage of the dynamic seal.
These bearings are 3/4s the size of kingpin Dana 60's!!


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[blue bomber]

It's a moly type grease. I'm not belittling your Crusier parts. Dana 60' s are better than both;-)


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[blue bomber]

Damn auto correct makes you seam literate!!


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[Fivespddisco]

Im sorry I do not have the MSDS sheet on the grease.

 

[David Harris]

If the seals and swivel ball surface are in good condition, you can just run straight gear oil in the swivels on Rovers. In fact, all Series trucks through early Discos used gear oil from the factory. You can just remove the inner axle seal and run the cv's and wheel bearings in the same oil as the axle. This goes for the full-floating rear end on Rovers too. The advantage to this is that you can just drain the oil and refill after a lot of submerged driving. The swivel housings on pre-97-ish trucks have drains on the swivels for use with gear oil. This stopped with the introduction of the black surface swivels. There is slight leakage running gear oil, as might be expected since some is clinging to the surface of the swivel in use. The grease was introduced to stop this slight leakage when customers complained about little spots on their driveways when parked. Not that Rovers were leak free elsewhere!

David

 

[Antichrist]

Gear oil is a lot cheaper too.

 

[no-pistons]

Is it possible to put too much grease in there?


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[blue bomber]

Use the prescribed single packet. With my double bearing set up I have moly grease packed the swivel bearings and a tube for the cv joint lube.
You can see the the swivels in this image. Lots of miles on this set up.


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[no-pistons]

What about removing the old grease before putting in a new packet of grease?


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[Eniam17]

I have flushed mine out with a little gear oil, let it drain out for a while, then added the grease packets.