Michelin LTX M/S2 v General Grabber AT2s

[dcwhybrew]

Well, it looks like I need another set of tires for my LR3. I have the General Grabber AT2s now. The tire has been just fine. Due to a cut in a side wall and about 30% tread life remaining, I have decided to go ahead and buy new tires. Scott Brady posted a comment in his Disco 5 speed thread regarding putting the Michelin LTX M/S2s on his D1. Mike Rupp says he has them on his D1. I am considering these for my LR3 in the 265/60-18 size. Rather than buggering up Scott's thread any further I thought I would post a new thread specific to my question(s).

I know the General Grabber AT2s in 255/60-18 work just fine on and off road. Since I dont off road much anymore, I wanted to consider something with a little better tread wear than the Grabber AT2s. What's the scoop on the Michelin LTX A/T2s in snow? I am sure rain and dry roads, they're perfect. In OK, we occasionally see some wicked snow storms, plus I'd like to drive the truck on some ski trips this year or next. So how do the Michelin LTX AT2s perform in snow? Lastly, will the 265/60-18 fit in the spare tire space underneath?

Or should I just stick with what I have? Thanks

 

[JeremyT101]

I'm curious to see this too as my disco will need new tires quite soon. Still very undecided what to do with them.

 

[VanIsle_Greg]

No personal experience, but a friend bought a set last year and he is very happy with them. He had the Michelin LTX M/S before, and they lasted forever, so this time he opted for Michelin again and went a little more aggressive. He had them installed, and a week later departed for a 10,000+ KM trip across the US West and back. Very little wear and no issues, not too loud on the highway...the tire shop was surprised to see him 2 weeks later for a rotation!

From what I understand these are very good tires, quality and longevity.

 

[dcwhybrew]

I'm curious to see this too as my disco will need new tires quite soon. Still very undecided what to do with them.

Jeremy, with your D1, I would strongly suggest you get a set of BFG All Terrains. I had them on my D1 and D2 in a size similar to stock and they were fantastic! I would put them on my LR3 but they dont come in a size similar to stock, and I dont want to mess with modifying my suspension.

For the D1, you have all sorts of options. If you want to lift the truck you can look at the 245/75-16, 265/75 or 70-16s, or the popular 235/85-16s. Otherwise, if you want to keep it stock, then chose the 245/70-16. I had those and they're about 0.5" taller than stock so you dont have to worry about suspension or rubbing issues. They are a great tire.

 

[Warner Manzke]

LR3 tires

Well, it looks like I need another set of tires for my LR3. I have the General Grabber AT2s now. The tire has been just fine. Due to a cut in a side wall and about 30% tread life remaining, I have decided to go ahead and buy new tires. Scott Brady posted a comment in his Disco 5 speed thread regarding putting the Michelin LTX M/S2s on his D1. Mike Rupp says he has them on his D1. I am considering these for my LR3 in the 265/60-18 size. Rather than buggering up Scott's thread any further I thought I would post a new thread specific to my question(s).

I know the General Grabber AT2s in 255/60-18 work just fine on and off road. Since I dont off road much anymore, I wanted to consider something with a little better tread wear than the Grabber AT2s. What's the scoop on the Michelin LTX A/T2s in snow? I am sure rain and dry roads, they're perfect. In OK, we occasionally see some wicked snow storms, plus I'd like to drive the truck on some ski trips this year or next. So how do the Michelin LTX AT2s perform in snow? Lastly, will the 265/60-18 fit in the spare tire space underneath?

Or should I just stick with what I have? Thanks

I had a set on my LR3. They worked great in the snow and ice hear in VT and lasted for over 30000 miles. You can't go wrong with michelin.

 

[jrose609]

Wife has a set on her LR3. Very quiet. Very smooth. Good traction on wet, snow, and ice. 10000 miles so far and look new still.

 

[Frank]

Tirerack.com has tons of reviews as well!


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[dcwhybrew]

Wife has a set on her LR3. Very quiet. Very smooth. Good traction on wet, snow, and ice. 10000 miles so far and look new still.

Do you have a full size spare? If so, does it fit underneath the truck since the tire is bigger than stock?

 

[Bandit]

In 2009 We bought a Dodge 3500 Maxi Van , on a Wed. , wife won $ 10,000 on a scratch ticket on Fri. and We left from Mass. on Sun. night for Az. , just ahead of a big snow storm .
The Van had Trazano SL309's on the front and Michlin LTX M/S on the rear . We had No Problem's at all traveling the 9 1/2 mi. into the Base Camp of the Gold Mining club We belong to and also reaching the club's gold claim's , another 3 1/2 miles down an UN-Maintained road , just as one of the old timers said We would .
At the monthly Group Dig , We were surrounded by 4 X 4's and UTV's .
The best part was while exploring up around the Maggie Mine Road and Crown King Road , We were having lunch and a group of Built Up Jeep's belonging to an Off Road Tour Company drove by , with the passengers waving and the drivers glaring LOL .

As for LTX A/T's in mud ? My daughter had them on Her S-10 Blazer and while at college in Nh. , went 2 1/2 mi off road between winter / mud season to retrieve a " Brand NEW Jeep Liberty " with the factory tires that was stuck up to the frame . She went in in 2 wd. , used 4 X 4 to turn around and pop him out , then drove out in 2 wd while He kept getting stuck in 4 x 4 . ( She will only run LTX now )
Especially after having a flat at 70 on the highway ( from a side wall puncture ) that was actually smoking and the car never wavered till I was able to pull over and stop safely .
Bob

 

[RangeBrover]

I was in the same dilemma as you a few months ago when I sourced 18's for my Range Rover. I ended up going with the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S after the recommendation of members on this board and friends who had them on their truck. I've since put 8k miles on them since January and they have been perfect on and off road. They keep quiet at 80-90, and have been sure footed in deep snow in Chicago, and good ole Virginia clay. Plus they cost half as much as the michelen, but they should last at least 50k with rotations.

I used to be a die hard michelen guy but I think I'm being converted. In regards to fit ent of the spare the 265-60-18 is half an inch larger in diameter. It would not fit in my range rover due to the angle the tire has to be inserted and removed. I'm just keeping the full size 19 in there for now.

 

[jrose609]

Do you have a full size spare? If so, does it fit underneath the truck since the tire is bigger than stock?

Have a full size spare with the stock tire. Haven't tried with the larger tire yet.

 

[JeremyT101]

Have any of you guys heard about the Goodyear Wrangler Territory? They are on sale right now for 50$ off a tire at Canadian Tire. The unfortunate thing is they don't seem to have the size I was looking for. I'm not lifted (yet potentially) and it only comes in 225/75/r16 which is a bit narrower then my stock tires at 235/70, and then it jumps to 235/85, and 245/75. I'm thinking that neither of those tires will really fit on my disco without lifting it. Any help there?

Although the duratrac's do some in a 235/75 which is slightly bigger then stock I believe at about the same price point right now. (the territory would be 50$ more without the sale). I was looking at these tires as I have heard good things about them and wasn't sure if the Michy LTX M/S was really an AT tire, or a kind of glorified street tire. Although I'm currently poor and will keep driving my slightly bald front tires for another while I'm guessing, I do need these soon. Oh well.

 

[RangeBrover]

They don't sell the territory in the US. If it was me I'd stay away from CrapYear tires though. The OEM tire on my range was the Goodyear wrangler HP and they cupped so bad within the first 10k miles I had to swap them out. I had them put on the second time with Goodyear's warranty but they cupped again. I said enough of that and bought 18's and the Yokohamas and have been happy since.

In all fairness though my best friend loves the duratracs on his 2010 4runner, they are a little noisy at highway speeds but nothing major. They've performed great every time we have been out.

 

[KyleT]

Michelin LTX A/T 2 are Awesome. i put 55-60k on a set of 235/85's on my D2 and they are still +60%. great off road. if it matters i went from those to 35's. they got the job done very well. would have run them in 35's but they dont make them in the size i needed...

 

[dcwhybrew]

I went back to the General's since I only had to buy 4. Kind of wish I hadn't been cheap and gone with the Michelin's just to try them out. (Cheap meaning, I would have had to buy 5 michelins vs four Generals - I already had a fullsize General Grabber AT2 spare). I have had Michelin Synchrones on a P38 RR and the old XPCs on a D2 and both did really well...though the XPCs wore out a bit faster. Oh well... The General Grabbers are still an excellent tire. I had 40k miles on mine before I replaced them, and they still had 6/32 of tread left. So starting out with 13/32 less the 2/32 legal minimum gave me 11/32 of usable tread and I had 5/32 used over 40k miles. So I would presume I would get at least 60-70k miles out of these tires just like my BFG ATs on my D1 and D2s.

I just wish a tire manufacturer would make a LT rated/bias (whichever the appropriate descriptor) tire in a 255/60 or 265/60 18. Currently, the only LT option is to go oversized at a 265/65 minimum. I probably would not have had the sidewall cut that I had if they were LT rated tires. Oh well... At least I have 3 back up tires in the garage for later use (as it seems I always have a tire failure around the 50% wear mark...LOL).

Anyone running nitrogen in their tires? What is the benefit, or do you notice any difference? I have never really noticed any air pressure fluctuations...which is the only reason I thought nitrogen is used?? I thought nitrogen was mainly for high performance tires that heat up due to speed and hard cornering.

The tire company here in Broken Arrow that mounted them put nitrogen in them. Fortunately I dont air up or down (other than standard rotations) so it wont matter. But if I were still out in the desert, off roading, it would have mattered somewhat.