OME 885 or 886?

[Dr. Cornwallis]

With the coming of my tax return I will begin turning my 2012 access cab TRD Sport into an expedition vehicle. I'm in need of tires and brakes so I figure this will be a good place to start. I'll be using an OME lift kit, method NV wheels, Goodyear Wrangler MTR 285/75/16 tires and EBC brakes and rotors.

I'm looking to keep my stock UCA's so I don't think I'll be able to go higher than 2.5 in. I plan on adding an ARB bumper and Warn winch down the road, but that probably won't be for a year or so. While I'd like to buy and cry once, will the 886 coils cause my front to sit to high without the extra weight of the bumper? A stiff ride doesn't bother me, in fact I actually prefer it, however I'm worried about the amount of lift the 886 coils will give me with no additional weight up front.




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[Stone_Blue]

Are we to assume you're going with OME Nitrocharger struts?

 

[Dr. Cornwallis]

Are we to assume you're going with OME Nitrocharger struts?

That's correct. I should have specified that. Rear lift is going to be a 1.5in AAL.


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[cruiseroutfit]

We generally recommend customers buy the coils to match their 0-6 month build plan, perhaps even much sooner on something such as front coils which can have drastic consequences if too tall/stiff (CV boots, TRE's, etc). Coils are rather inexpensive in the grand scheme and a used pair of 2885 coils is going to net ~$100 online which leaves you out a few Jacksons.

 

[soonenough]

I would tell you to go with 885's for the time being. I have 886's on my '08 Tacoma with an ARB bumper and M800 winch, and the ride is still pretty stiff IMO. I installed the suspension and bumper at the same time, so I can't say how it would ride with 886's and factory bumper, but I imagine it would be plenty rough. I'd be worried about the amount of lift without any additional weight to bring the ride height back down. As cruiseroutfit said above, it's really not that big of a deal to swap the springs out later; a local auto repair place disassembled my factory struts and installed the Nitrocharger shocks and 886 springs onto the factory top plate using their spring compressor and didn't even charge me for it. It took them all of 30 minutes, so I'd guess most shops wouldn't charge a terrible amount for that. Or you could just rent a spring compressor and do it yourself.

Regarding the UCAs - here's a good thread to read before you make the decision to run with the OME lift and factory UCAs. If you go with 886s without bumper/winch, I'm pretty sure this problem would be even further exacerbated.

 

[Dr. Cornwallis]

How much could i lift without having to change UCA's? I understand I will have to trim to fit 285's regardless of how much lift I have. That being said, is there a "minimum" amount of lift recommended for 285's? I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with 5100's all around and 275-70-17 BF Goodrich AT KO2's with 1.5 in the front and a block in the rear?


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[Finlay]

I have the 885s on my AC and I am pleased with the results. Overall, I really like the ride and the handling, it was a net of about 2 inches overall.

Some notes :

I still have the stock UCA and the truck is driveable and all that. It is a lot more squirrelly though and requires more attention when driving. The less you lift, the easier it is to get the alignment closer to where it should be on the stock UCAs. I've put ~30,000 miles on, so it's not terrible, but I'll be doing UCAs when I redo the shocks next year.

The other issue you should be aware of is that the more you lift, the greater your chances of exposing driveline vibrations. There are some remedies, like carrier bearing drop kits and such, but father you get from stock, the more likely you are to run into issues.

I run 265-70-17 and have no issues with rubbing at all. You could probably get away with 275s on this lift. I'm less sure about the 285s.

 

[SIZZLE]

On an access cab with no extra weight, I'd go with the 885s. Otherwise you'll be sitting at 3"+ of lift upfront and have horrible alignment on the stock UCAs. Upgrade the coils when you get the bumper. Sometimes plans get pushed out. So one year til you get your bumper and winch might turn out to be longer.

 

[Overlanerd]

I have the 885's and Bilstien 5100's set at 0. No spacer/ enhancer or lean spacer. I already had the TJM bumper on when the springs were installed. The ride is nice and not too stiff. I really didn't notice a difference after installing an 8000 lbs winch. The front sits probably 2" higher than stock.

I'm running the stock UCA's as well. There was no significant tire wear and the alignment shop got the truck in spec... barely. The wandering wasn't really noticeable with the 265/75/16's, but is a little squirrelly with the 255/85/16's. It's definitely driveable and stable at speeds, it just tracks a little more than before. With no bumper/ winch, 886's, and the stock UCA's, you'll probably need to keep 2 hands on the wheel...

I would get the UCA's and 885's. As everyone else said, the springs are easy to swap and you can always sell the 885's to pay for 50% + of the future 886 costs.

After reading the thread in that link above, the LR UCA's just got added to my short list.

 

[Dr. Cornwallis]

Thanks for all insight everyone! Because I'm a fan of doing nonce and doing it right, I'm going to go ahead and go for the full three inches using 885's and some aftermarket UCA's. It's going to cost a little more up front but it will save me in the long run.


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[steve103]

ive had 886 for a while now with an ARB with no winch for the first year with stock uca had no problems. after winch went on handling was better for sure.