Ordering a new Tacoma

[jrfromafar]

I've got this fever to go with a popup camper - (probably from ATC - maybe my own build - that's another fever lol) - I may go with a full size truck, but may opt for a Tacoma. Either way, I want to put a Ute flatbed on - then I want to trick it out with after market misc like a front bush bumper, sliders, etc. So if I purchase brand new I don't want to waste money with a lot of things I'll be stripping off, as well as the bumpers, bed, etc. So should I just skip purchasing any upgrade TRD 'package' or how do I order just what I want in a pickup?

 

[Mattm94]

To the best of my knowledge Tacomas are built in production runs with trim packages they think will sell, so you can't custom order. If you can get the dealer to snag one "in line" that's what you want, that's the route I'd take. You may wait months for them to produce the color/drivetrain/trim/options you want. Most dealers aren't really interested in helping you get what you want. They want to sell you what they have. It is common in my experience to put together a trim package that shows available online, then never see it available in your region or sometimes never actually even produced.

I'd take into account what you can get for what you take off by selling it. TRD shocks, etc may sell quickly recouping some of your investment. Black Tokicos most likely aren't going to move if you put them up for sale. May have to get TRD to get a locker if that matters.

 

[Clutch]

Unfortunately manufactures now-a-days love packages, selling you stuff you really don't need. Toyota loves to do this.

You'll be better off in a fullsize truck with an ATC style camper, will be near payload capacity with the Tacoma as it is only 1350/1340/1235 lbs. depending on model.

Me personally would get a stripped down commercial vehicle from the commercial dealer, and go from there. Toyota does sell the Tundra in a work truck model.



or...

http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/

http://www.chevrolet.com/commercial-use.html

http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ram_commercial/

 

[JWP58]

Used Tundra work package truck. Or an older 7.3L powerstroke F-250 Off road.....or maybe a Power Wagon...

 

[DaveInDenver]

There was a time early in Tacoma production where a locker could be ordered separate from the TRD package I think, but I don't know (1) if it was true or (b) if it's still possible. I did see an old non-TRD Taco 4 cylinder with manual hubs and a factory locker that the owner said he bought used with 9,000 miles on it. I dunno.

What about the TRD package would you not really want? I assume you don't want to pay for upgraded suspension that will just be torn off mostly. Otherwise it's the locker plus a tow hitch, sport seats, a bunch of 'convenience' junk and bed stickers.

I'd go with the most stripped model and put in a locker if all the TRD stuff offends. Or buy a used one and then you won't feel bad ripping all the old factory parts off.

Or the commercial route, Kermit is right that even the current Taco is a little too close to maximums IMHO to be comfortable with pop ups. I'd probably do a Ford or Chevy 1/2 ton in that case, the Tundra to me is just too big not to have a diesel.

 

[Gregster]

I'd just order an SR5 and equip it with ARB air lockers. You probably don't need or want all that tracton control stuff that comes on the TRD models.

 

[Clutch]

Kermit is right that even the current Taco is a little too close to maximums IMHO to be comfortable with pop ups.

Start tossing on things like bumpers, sliders, jerry cans, supplies, etc...plus a popup, you're over capacity and you even haven't sat in the drivers seat yet.

Heaviest camper I would put on a Taco would be a FlipPac or a camper shell/Roof Top Tent.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I 100% agree, FlipPac/'Nest/RTT is the way to go with small trucks. It's all about appropriately sizing your outfit. The reason we go with Tacoma and that class of truck is mileage and ability to squeeze down trails. When you start ladening the things with disproportionate campers and add-ons you ruin both. A full size truck is more comfortable, less taxed and safer when used regularly with a pop-up or trailer. I think people trying to make the Hilux and 1st gen Tacoma into something they were not is why the 'mini' trucks aren't so mini or simple anymore, which is unfortunate.

 

[Clutch]

I 100% agree, FlipPac/'Nest/RTT is the way to go with small trucks. It's all about appropriately sizing your outfit. The reason we go with Tacoma and that class of truck is mileage and ability to squeeze down trails. When you start ladening the things with disproportionate campers and add-ons you ruin both. A full size truck is more comfortable, less taxed and safer when used regularly with a pop-up or trailer. I think people trying to make the Hilux and 1st gen Tacoma into something they were not is why the 'mini' trucks aren't so mini or simple anymore, which is unfortunate.

Pack them like a weight weeny watching back packer, and you're good.

I love my Tacoma for everything but traveling...

 

[tanglefoot]

The Tundra payload tops out at 1885 lbs with the 2wd reg-cab with a 5.7 but most configurations are in the 1300s and 1400s. The Tacoma 4x4 reg-cab with a 2.7 and 5-speed has a payload of 1435 lbs. It's tough to justify the bigger truck on the payload numbers.

I'm a fan of sticking with the smaller truck, myself. They're much easier to handle on a daily basis and can do quite a lot of work. The ATCs and FWCs are built to be light. I see no reason not to put one on a Taco or other compact/mid. The wooden pop-up I have on the 1985 (much less power and braking ability) is pretty satisfying. I wouldn't hesitate to put some add-a-leaves on the back of a Tacoma and set a camper in.

As for equipping a new truck, I've never found much value in the add-ons. Toyota dealers seem to have large stocks of Tacomas (long rows of them, whenever I drive by) and you should be able to find one there that isn't laden with a bunch of options and packages.

Have fun!

 

[Plannerman]

Assuming you'll be using your truck in low traction situations, the TRD Offroad package is probably worth the investment. You get the rear locker, an amazing traction control system, and an upgraded braking system, in addition to the various amenities such as the upgraded front seats. Many of the OR amenities can be added aftermarket. The traction control and brakes cannot be.

These trucks are stout and nimble and amazing overlanding vehicles.

 

[jrfromafar]

Thanks much for the input. I have a much better idea of what to expect with a Toyota vs a full size truck. I do like the idea of traveling light - although in my (real) world I'm not sure how realistic that is!