question's about re-gearing

hrjaw

Explorer
IXNAYXJ said:
Yes, I'm sorry, I was thinking 3.55. Still an improvement both in gears and in axle strength for a small cost, and probably just fine for 32's.

The other option Fergie mentioned makes a lot of sense, too. If you can find a Ford 8.8 in 4.10 you get 31-spline shafts and disc brakes, then just find a cheap HP D30 and match the gears.

I guess the big question is your budget. One option is about $400 and range to well over a $1000.

-----Matt-----


you guys all bring up some very good points that i need to consider. the first and foremost being the actual need, and if so, then which way to go.
 

SunDvl

New member
IMO, I think an 8.8 would be overkill for what your looking to do, both in terms of money and offroad performance. You would be much better off buying used TJ axles with factory 3.73's, as they can usually be had extremely cheap and will bolt right in. The price of used TJ axles would be cheaper than buying new gears and having them installed by at least $400.
 

Fergie

Expedition Leader
SunDvl said:
IMO, I think an 8.8 would be overkill for what your looking to do, both in terms of money and offroad performance. You would be much better off buying used TJ axles with factory 3.73's, as they can usually be had extremely cheap and will bolt right in. The price of used TJ axles would be cheaper than buying new gears and having them installed by at least $400.

I agree as well.

The 8.8 is a boat anchor. You will lose about an inch of clearance beneath the pumpkin.

If you can find them, get a set of 3.73 axles from a TJ, if not those, then 3.55s from a TJ.

If you need to go to deeper gearing, that is when you get in to new axles and regearing costs.
 

hrjaw

Explorer
Fergie said:
I agree as well.

The 8.8 is a boat anchor. You will lose about an inch of clearance beneath the pumpkin.

If you can find them, get a set of 3.73 axles from a TJ, if not those, then 3.55s from a TJ.

If you need to go to deeper gearing, that is when you get in to new axles and regearing costs.

probably a stupid question but just get the axles or the axles, gears etc.
 

madizell

Explorer
Assuming that your Jeep came originally with P235's running around 29 inches, and that you now run 31's, the difference in diameter of the tires of choice is 1.069. That is, the larger tires are bigger by that factor. Changing gears in order to simulate stock performance requires changing gears at or near the same factor of change. 3.07 x 1.069 = 3.28. Don't know if there are any gears in that range, but there likely are in 3.54 or 3.73, or thereabouts. With either gear set and an auto trans, you should be able to run anything from 31 to 33 without issues, and without overheating the transmission.

Even if you originally had 27 inch tires, the difference between those and 31's, factored into a gear ratio, would still result in 3.525, which is very close to 3.54. So, if you want to stay close to stock driving parameters with the larger tires, 3.54 should be all the change you need. 4.10's would cause you to run farther up in the rpm range and likely use a noticeable amount more in fuel. Off road, 4.10's would be an advantage with the larger tires, but not much of one. IMHO, 4.10 gears in a stock or near stock Jeep with no more than 33 inch tires is only needed if you have the 4 cylinder, and then only to make up for the lack of power on tap. The 4.0 six cylinder and an auto trans will pull the larger tires just fine with the intermediate gears in the 3.5 to 3.7 range.
 

hrjaw

Explorer
nice explanation. thank you very much. i am thinking the 3.73 will work perfectly for me. just need to start looking for what I need.
 

hrjaw

Explorer
so I found a 35 local to me with 3.73's with 30,000 miles out of an 04 tj. I just need to weld on the factory track bar bracket as he had a 4 point suspenion on it. $100.00, not bad!
 

hrjaw

Explorer
computeruser said:
You want 3.73 gears for 31" tires. Best all-around combination with the 3-speed auto.


yep, exactly what i am getting with the setup above. now i need to work on getting the front set up done.
 

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