Rack Design Questions

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
I'm going to start building a roof rack for myself. I can't really justify paying $1000+ for a rack, plus I have a TIG welder and it's fun, so, what the heck.

Just wondering if anybody has any input on design features?

I don't think I intend on ever having a rooftop tent. So I don't need super strength. But I would like to potentially put some gas tanks and or a wheel up there. The main use however is just light weight gear. If the potential of having gas tanks and wheels up there means the difference between a light and sleek rack, or a bulky beast, I'll opt not to put those up there. I'm trying to have the thing be light and sleek for CG and wind resistance reasons. I do want to be able to walk around up there for accessing gear.

I'm also going to make it out of aluminum because I like working with it, it's light, and doesn't rust.

I was thinking using the factory 04 rack tubes as the foundation for the front secton. Just because they're there, they seem strong enough as-is, and it saves making 4 drip rail legs. I also think it will result in the whole thing being lighter, and sleeker (style and MPG). I've already got two 1x2x.125 cross bars bolted to the factory tubes using U bolts, and a SportRack on top of those. Seems to work ok so far.

Is there any reason why I would WANT to have driprail legs? Any reason to have them?

In the rear, I'm not sure if I want to use driprail legs down to the C and D pillar, or work the mounting frame to support at the rear where there are factory supports under the sheet metal for the factory rail extensions. There are some reinforced points back near the rear door.

Again, this would keep the whole thing sleeker. The only reason I can think I might want them is to provide me a place to mount bridging ladders I might want at some point. The hilift is already on the bullbar. Shovel and axe are probably going to go on a custom spare tire mount.

The only other reason I can think I might WANT driprail legs, is to be able to weld a tube around them which serves as a "roof slider"? I've seen this mentioned. Not sure if it's worth considering.

I also think I'm going to add a wind deflector on the front, with a ramp angle which matches the factory tubes, and will carry into the front edge of the rack.

I was thinking the floor will be two-level. With the crossbars bolted to the factory rail tubes, I can still open the front sunroof. But, the rear floor would have to kick up a bit to be able to open the rear. I was thinking the top rail around the rack will be a single level however. So it will be ~6" high in the front, and 2-3" high in the rear. Just enough to give something to lash to. This design would hopefully complement the lines of the stepped roof, while still being sleek on top.

Thoughts?
 

RonL

Adventurer
Early Disco2 had an extended roof rail kit you could buy. I am not sure(never seen) one of this kits for the 2004 Disco2 with the fat bars. I was told that the Disco2 had more re-enforcing in the rear roof to mount these to. Maybe you can use the rear mounting area for your rack.

rear extentions are part numbers stc50034aa
 

kellymoe

Expedition Leader
I would consider a half rack. The problem with full racks is that you are tempted to fill them up. There are very few circumstances where a fully loaded full length roof rack is needed. I have a full length rack on my truck and I have never filled it up. The only reason I don't reduce the size is that my awning is attached to it and it's nice to have a large shaded area.

Making one yourself is the way to go. Make it how you need it and how you want it. There will be purists who will poo poo your efforts but if it works, it works.

Keep it light and keep it useful.
 

RonL

Adventurer
I built a low profile rack for my wife's. It works great. Build your own is fun.

I had to build it without a second rail around the back to fit in my old garage.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
RonL said:
Early Disco2 had an extended roof rail kit you could buy. I am not sure(never seen) one of this kits for the 2004 Disco2 with the fat bars. I was told that the Disco2 had more re-enforcing in the rear roof to mount these to. Maybe you can use the rear mounting area for your rack.

rear extentions are part numbers stc50034aa

That is the 99-03 part number right? I haven't seen extensions for the 04 fat bars.

Yes, you're right, there is some kind of reinforcement back there for the rail extensions. That's what I was thinking of doing.

I would consider a half rack. The problem with full racks is that you are tempted to fill them up. There are very few circumstances where a fully loaded full length roof rack is needed. I have a full length rack on my truck and I have never filled it up. The only reason I don't reduce the size is that my awning is attached to it and it's nice to have a large shaded area.

Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking. However, since I am going to use the factory rails, and make a wind deflector, it will end up being narrower, and shorter than the SD rack, so I'll end up with less space. I basically have a half rack up there right now, and it's too small already. We're going to fill it up as it is. I have some extras to take, knee board, life jackets, etc.

Along the same lines, not a "full size", but I think the narrow and a little short rack I'm planning will be just right.

Making one yourself is the way to go. Make it how you need it and how you want it. There will be purists who will poo poo your efforts but if it works, it works.

Well, the purists are already riled up because I got the ARB bumper. ;) So I don't mind. :shakin:

I built a low profile rack for my wife's. It works great. Build your own is fun.

I had to build it without a second rail around the back to fit in my old garage.

Nice work. That's actually kinda similar to my idea. Only narrower to fit flush with the rails, and it'll be swept back at the front, and have a top rail that will be 2" proud at the back, and 4" at the front.

How did you bend your tube?

I think there's no way I'll get in the garage anyway. It's too tight as is. But I'll check, maybe there's hope if I put no rail on back. Either that, or I had half a mind to just unplug the rear sunroof motor, and drop the rear floor closer to the roof. Then it would be a single level rack however, and lack a bit of style...
 

t0mills

Adventurer
RonL said:
I built a low profile rack for my wife's. It works great. Build your own is fun.

I had to build it without a second rail around the back to fit in my old garage.


Sorry to thread-jack, but that pic looks exactly like a hole I went through in Disney, Oklahoma.


:victory:
 

RonL

Adventurer
This hole was in Lake Geneva, Wisc. We were at a Chicago Land Rover Club event. I was helping others through a "tight spot" and the wife headed out on a trail without me to see if the ride would put our son to sleep. Not too much after that, I got a call on the radio that I might want to head over and help my wife because she is stuck.

Now that we live in Kansas, we need to get to Disney sometime.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
I have a half rack that accommodates two bikes on the outside of a 4' by 3' basket. I've never filled the basket. I can't imagine what I'd put on a full rack, but I'm sure plenty of people do and need to.

In actuality, I've been tempted to go rackless. Better windage.
 

sinuhexavier

Explorer
kellymoe said:
I would consider a half rack. The problem with full racks is that you are tempted to fill them up. There are very few circumstances where a fully loaded full length roof rack is needed.

Easy for the guy in the 130 to say... ;)
 

kellymoe

Expedition Leader
sinuhexavier said:
Easy for the guy in the 130 to say... ;)

Umm... I guess I keep forgetting all that space behind the back seats:) Your kinda right I guess. There just aint too much room in the Disco unless you take the back seats out.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
I have a toddler, so back seat stays in. This past vacation trip, I had a full basket and trunk, and I didn't even have any camping equipment!

Strollers take up a huge amount of room, and was required for one day of the holiday. :(

Knee board, folding dog kennel, toys, more toys... all inside with the luggage. On the roof: life jackets and wetsuits, toys, collapsible wading pool, folding chairs and more toys.

I ended up not being able to go on any hard trails, because I didn't have anything in the truck to take care of us if we got stranded. :(
 

Forum statistics

Threads
189,879
Messages
2,921,793
Members
233,084
Latest member
Off Road Vagabond
Top