Rhino 4x4??
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Martinjmpr
Wiffleball Batter
Funny, I saw some kids driving one of these along a street near Roxborough Park this weekend while I was out on my motorcycle. Illegal as hell in this state but Roxborough is in the far edge of unincorporated Douglas County so they probably figured their chances of getting caught were pretty small.
I'm a bit conflicted about ATVs in general. When I went hunting this past November in NW CO you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting 15 of these things, buzzing around all over the place. Had the same experience when I went 4-wheeling up in Summit County at Saints John and Radical Hill over Labor Day weekend. ATVs everywhere.
Yes, I know the argument is that 90% of the users are responsible, that there are irresponsible 4x4 drivers out there too, blah, blah, blah. All I can say is that I cringe whenever I see these things zipping in and out of traffic on forest service roads, driving off of established trails, etc, (and that happens a lot) because it's easy - very easy - for non-motorized trail users to lump ATV drivers, dirt bikers and 4x4 owners in one big category and we all suffer by the actions of the few.
Fair? Maybe not, but that's the world we live in.
I'm a bit conflicted about ATVs in general. When I went hunting this past November in NW CO you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting 15 of these things, buzzing around all over the place. Had the same experience when I went 4-wheeling up in Summit County at Saints John and Radical Hill over Labor Day weekend. ATVs everywhere.
Yes, I know the argument is that 90% of the users are responsible, that there are irresponsible 4x4 drivers out there too, blah, blah, blah. All I can say is that I cringe whenever I see these things zipping in and out of traffic on forest service roads, driving off of established trails, etc, (and that happens a lot) because it's easy - very easy - for non-motorized trail users to lump ATV drivers, dirt bikers and 4x4 owners in one big category and we all suffer by the actions of the few.
Fair? Maybe not, but that's the world we live in.
The Adam Blaster
Expedition Leader
In Alberta the 4x4 truck/Jeep/etc. crowd is apparently viewed as much worse than the ATV crowd.
Access is being closed to fullsized, yet being left open for the quads.
Last year there was a few newspaper/magazine/e-zine articles how a few 4x4 clubs had cleaned up a large area after a holiday weekend. That publicity was followed up with some cameras that went out in the area and filmed vehicles and stated that the "big 4x4 trucks" were damaging the land etc.
It was pretty brutal, and they almost immediately closed down the area to full-sizes, yet the partiers that destroy the area with garabage left behind, random fires etc. are still allowed to go in there, but we aren't allowed to go in there and clean up... :shaking head:
Access is being closed to fullsized, yet being left open for the quads.
Last year there was a few newspaper/magazine/e-zine articles how a few 4x4 clubs had cleaned up a large area after a holiday weekend. That publicity was followed up with some cameras that went out in the area and filmed vehicles and stated that the "big 4x4 trucks" were damaging the land etc.
It was pretty brutal, and they almost immediately closed down the area to full-sizes, yet the partiers that destroy the area with garabage left behind, random fires etc. are still allowed to go in there, but we aren't allowed to go in there and clean up... :shaking head:
Scofco
Observer
I have done 150 miles in this past week on mine, I have also been using the bed to pick up garbage, mostly beer cans from snowmobilers. It's not a big problem here, but it's better to clean it up before it becomes an issue.
I can use the 4Runner to tow it as far as is comfortable, then drive the Rhino the rest of the way in. I think it's fantastic, even with the price tag.
jayshapiro
Adventurer
jkam said:
Does anyone know if the Diesel versions of the 4 passenger Kawasaki Mule ones have the same ULSD issues as the 'mainstream' 2008+ diesel emissions trucks?
I have to admit I'm tempted to get a 4pax 4x4 diesel as a run-around vehicle allowing us to leave the main expedition truck set-up at the 'campsite' for those quick 'runs into town' and exploring all the small places that you couldn't take an F-650.
Of course, the bigger issue is "where?" at 1600lbs it might be a bit much to hang off the back of the truck. Not really keen on towing a trailer for 2 yrs though.
So far, we've been leaning towards a small dirt bike, with a removable aluminum sidecar. (2 adults, 2 kids) - but these Mules, are an interesting option...
Jay.
IronSmiles
Observer
I've seen and driven the Rhino's and they are pretty cool IMO.. and in theory seem like a pretty good exploration tool from a "base camp" setting. But for some reason to me it seems like the only way that would really be worth it is if your main ExPo vehicle is something that can't really explore.. like if you are using a RV or truck style camper that is not very nimble or capable.
I do really like the dirtbike idea, because then you could keep everything seperate, yet together.. For instance if you had your main vehicle as like a Jeep/toyota/mog hooked up to an offroad adventure type trailer to match with all goodies, and then had a mount on there somewhere for a dirt bike to seperate on short exploring trips?
That to me would be a near perfect set up next to having something just rediculously wicked like this ~~> http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11614
But as far as a Rhino being an ExPo vehicle by itself? I just can't see it. :smiley_drive:
I do really like the dirtbike idea, because then you could keep everything seperate, yet together.. For instance if you had your main vehicle as like a Jeep/toyota/mog hooked up to an offroad adventure type trailer to match with all goodies, and then had a mount on there somewhere for a dirt bike to seperate on short exploring trips?
That to me would be a near perfect set up next to having something just rediculously wicked like this ~~> http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11614
But as far as a Rhino being an ExPo vehicle by itself? I just can't see it. :smiley_drive:
ATV's and Rhino's could make great EV. Look at what this couple from Quebec did with two ATV's and a home made custom built trailer. Traveled from British Columbia straight threw the US, into Mexico and through Baja and back over a one year period. You can follow their entire trip here: (click english and "lets go" to view their detailed trip report with great photo's)
http://quadtrek.net
http://quadtrek.net
R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
I strongly considered the SxS thing before I got my truck. I ride dirt bikes, but I want to be able to bring my wife and kid along now. I thought a Rhino with a seat in the back and extended cage would be just the ticket. But then a few problems popped up:
1) It's not street legal like my dual sport is. That limits use somewhat.
2) Would need a trailer to carry it around, it won't fit in my existing 4x8 trailer, and if I get a 5x10 with that machine on it... it starts to get to be a lot to pull behind a Focus.
3) They are not allowed on most ATV trails here. The quad clubs won't allow them. Also being non-street legal, use is really limited!
4) They're expensive. In Canada they are $14-16k for a Rhino, and I got my 2004 Discovery for $19k, it's street legal, warm and almost dry, and can carry a lot more, tow my track car if I ever get to that point, etc.
1) It's not street legal like my dual sport is. That limits use somewhat.
2) Would need a trailer to carry it around, it won't fit in my existing 4x8 trailer, and if I get a 5x10 with that machine on it... it starts to get to be a lot to pull behind a Focus.
3) They are not allowed on most ATV trails here. The quad clubs won't allow them. Also being non-street legal, use is really limited!
4) They're expensive. In Canada they are $14-16k for a Rhino, and I got my 2004 Discovery for $19k, it's street legal, warm and almost dry, and can carry a lot more, tow my track car if I ever get to that point, etc.
T.Low
Expedition Leader
We're finally getting married. Our best friend is going to perform the ceremony, which will be held on a 20x20 deck, that sits at the end of a relatively short, up hill trail . The deck sits above the bank of a creek, in the forest, next to a lake, in northwest Washington. The creek flows from a 50ft waterfall about 50ft away, right by the deck, and into the lake.
My buddy sells/rents light equipment. He will be shuttling our Grandparents up the trail in one of his rental 4x4, 4 seat Rhinos, outfitted with wedding gear.:smiley_drive:
My buddy sells/rents light equipment. He will be shuttling our Grandparents up the trail in one of his rental 4x4, 4 seat Rhinos, outfitted with wedding gear.:smiley_drive: