Roof Rack for JK 2 Doors - Need Ideas

Arabia

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582047_199202610199148_100003282327559_327491_140285799_n.jpgHi Guys,
The idea is to get a Roof Rack for my JK2doors.

Will be keeping my Soft Trek-Top (the hard one has gone to a friend), now the question is just go and buy the latest Wild Boat Fastback Roof Rack or build up my own.

Called the guys of WB but am tempted to do it on my own, to get it shipped here in UAE will take time and cost an eye.

Has anyone of you guys have an idea suggestions on materials for the rood rack as well as a nice ultra-light roof tent ?

Thanks

F

Btw, I normally go for Desert Camping in the Empty Quarter.
 
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Hi Arabia,

Not quite the same context as you as I am in Canada, but I found roof racks boiled down into two options:

1) Bulky as heck (huge gaps between the bars and the body) but cheap.
2) Sleek and good-looking but expensive.

I couldn't justify, on my current income, to spend $1500 on a Gobi, so I built my own. A few good weekends at the garage and about $300 dollars in Steel and I got this:

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From the rear to the front, I'll talk you through the design. The entire rack is made out of 1x1 square tubing, with the exception of the rear uprights which are a combination of 2x2 square tubing and 1/4 inch flatbar.

I bent a 1/4 inch piece of flatbar to go from the frame, up past the stock bumper, and then out a bit through that tiny bit of clearance between the bumper and the body. That piece bolts directly to the frame's bumper mounts.

The uprights are welded on that. Also welded onto those uprights is a plate with a nut on it. I can then thread in a bolt with a rubber stopper on the end (salvaged from a rubber door stop). This allows me to tension the uprights against the body so the whole rack doesn't rattle.

On the top of those uprights is a mounting bracket for the hinge (just a piece of pipe). Inside the pipe I used an old bushing off of a control arm to isolate the rack from the body a bit.

On that hinge, the rack then can articulate backwards for top removal.

At the front, a light bar connects to the windshield hinge bolt holes (some are missing in the above photo). The basket is made of angle iron and expanded metal.

The whole thing can support a fair bit of weight -- I've had it loaded with nearly 300 pounds of gear while driving (had 4 people and a dog inside so ALL of our packs had to go on top). I now have a Tepui RTT mounted - it's a 3-man, the Korkoram model. Me, the lady, our sleeping gear, and our dog all sleep up there without so much as a creek or bounce in the rack.

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I always carry extra hardware just in case a bolt breaks and a small tool kit. And, if any one piece breaks, I can limp my way to civilization and re-weld it wherever I need to without concern for ruining a warranty (and no one to blame for the break but my own engineering skills (or lack thereof!)

Hope this gives you some ideas.

Regards
Craig
 

Arabia

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I knew it, I knew it, I knew it !!!!
That someone had my same idea and did it, and that the right place was here to look for !!!
Craig you made my day, or night, here is 01:16 am.
Thanks it was just what I was looking for, a brave heart able to take the stake.
I will soon begin my project! Now goes for the roof tent.
I have gone thru different websites, on Monday am traveling to joburg for work and will have a direct look at their wonderful tents, so to see the exact weight of those things, as it seem that I have not been able to find over the web anyone specifying their products weights?
Thanks again Craig, if you other pics of your set up it would nice to see it.

Ciao
Franco
 
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Hi Franco!

Glad to be of help -- I'll be working a bit on the rack this weekend (had to press it into service immediately to assuage my camping itch so there's a few final touches I want to make). I'll try to take measurements and a few more pictures for your reference. If you check out my blog, you can see some of the mount construction:

www.impalaproject.blogspot.com

Specifically, this link will take you to the other posts on the jeep rack:

http://impalaproject.blogspot.ca/p/other-projects.html

(Mods: Sorry if I'm not allowed to post outside links like this; my blog is a hobby-only, freely hosted sight and I'm not making any money at all off of the above links -- even the site is ad free)

Also, I should say, I have VERY limited fabrication experience (in fact I've only owned the welder for less then a year and have been learning as I go). So this is doable as long as you know how to weld and are confident in those welds. For me...every time I hit a bump and my gear stays attached, my confidence grows :D (I also regularly inspect it for wear and tear)

Regards
Craig
 

Arabia

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Ciao Craig,
Thanks for the links, if it happens to have some photos with the roof tent folded, (how much does it weight ?) can you kindly post them, my goal is upgrade my two sweater 2door JK to a fully Raid-Overlander.
Planning a week trip in Oman with a group of friends from AD4x4 end of August. Crossing the Empty Quarter to Salahlah.


Franco

On my FB there are some Desert pics.
 
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Here ya go to start:

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After this weekend it will sit about an inch lower but you won't really tell. The weight of the tent, I would guess, is between 100 and 125 pounds. Some people find this really influences the handling, but to me, it's a Jeep not a Jaguar - so my driving style is such that it doesn't seem to make much a difference on the trips so far. In more technical terrain, though, that might be a consideration.

Cheers
Craig
 

Arabia

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Thanks Craig,

Hope to see more colse up's of your JK, it is giving me a huge push for this mod .......and to start ........ welding .......!!!!

Ciao
Franco
 
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Hi Franco,

My original typed post got erased due to a browser crash so I’ll try again – but this will be a bit more succinct then my last one!

Sorry I didn’t get these up yesterday – I ended up at a junk yard where I found some real treasures that will result in a very different rear bumper and rack set up then I have now. However today I went out and took pictures so I will try to explain some of the design elements for you here.

First, starting with the rear mounts:

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I constructed these out of ¼ inch flatbar. It was 6 inches wide. I made these using a shop press as opposed to a proper metal brake so I do not have measurements – it’s kind of a “fab as you go” type thing to fit with the rear bumper. The idea is the flat part connects to the frame where the OEM bumper attaches. From there, it bends 90-ish degrees out to be running parallel with the ground. Once it covers the distance between the frame and the OEM bumper, it bends 90 degrees one again to go straight up towards where the bumper and the body tub meet. In this area is a gap of ¼ - ½ inch where the flat bar fits. At the bumper, it bends 90 degrees again and heads flat; this is where the upright of the rack welds on. You’ll notice some angle iron. That is welded on to reinforce the metal.

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In this pic you can see it attached to the frame – sorry for the poor quality; I got this by sticking my camera phone into the wheel well. You’ll notice on the right-hand side of this photo there is another piece of angle iron attached.

If you pull the bumper off your JK you will see a seam where the body tub’s walls and floors connect. It’s a thicker piece of sheet metal that seemed quite strong. The purpose of this second piece of angle iron was to provide an anchoring point for another piece of sheet metal – I’ll call that the Bracing Piece. So, by bolting the Bracing Piece onto the aforementioned angle iron, I could brace the entire mount by tightening a few bolts. This prevents the mount from shaking from side to side on rough roads.

Sorry for the shoddy description; if you like I can draw you a picture. Note that this addition was AFTER I noticed the rack rocking back and forth a bit and hitting the body tub, see below:

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Now, the uprights weld onto that mount. The rack main body is attached to the uprights via a hinge that is simply a front control arm bushing (any piece of rubber with a metal core will work; you will just have to adjust for the pipe size accordingly). See picture:

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Below that, you’ll see a bolt running through a plate attached to the upright. This bolt then seems to screw against the body of the jeep (I’ve put a plate on there with some adhesive so it takes up all the rub/bounce and spreads out the weight a little bit). This is to ensure the rack doesn’t bounce off of the body or hard top over a nasty bump.

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The basket is made out of angle iron and expanded metal. A tip: Make sure your basket has some center-based reinforcement. After the first heavy load, the expanded metal stretched and now rubs against the hard top. The angle iron was meant to hold some cross pieces that would run parallel to the jeep so that I could mount an RTT. Turns out the RTT can mount on the original cross pieces that I designed. I got lucky there.

You’ll note the upper 1x1 for the basket stops just before the Freedom Top Panels. Don’t do this – let it run the entire length and put in little pieces to hold it up all the way along. What this design has done is it’s added a place where the rack is weak and unbraced and I’ve noticed some bending.

As for the front, the rack rests on a light bar and is secured by two tabs.

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The light bar is made out of 1x1 also, and is welded onto brackets that attach where the windshile mounts are. To make this, simply remove those windshield brackets with a torx and fab up some brackets with some rectangles of metal. Note: Cover those removed windshield brackets with tape to prevent scratching them. Another note: be CAREFUL when bolting in the brackets again – the captive nut on mine broke free hence the semi-out bolt you see in the photo.

A coat of paint and bob’s your uncle.

Let me know if anything is unclear and I will add more photos/explanation.

For what it’s worth, I’m now changing this design. I got really lucky today and found this at the scrap yard:


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(It's a rear tire carrier off an old Nissan with fully functional and well - maintained latch hardware et al)

So it’s time for my own fabbed custom bumper. The plan is instead of those fancy brackets I will weld the rack directly to the bumper; this way it'll be tied in to the frame without the diving board effect of the flatbar and it shouldn't need the bracing bolts to stay off the body.

Let me know if you have questions! Here are some more random pictures for your reference:

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Cheers
Craig
 

Arabia

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Ciao Craig,
Thanks a lot for your pics and suggestions, I am getting the idea better and better, I will have my father in law involved in this as he is a master in welding/cutting/bending and tightening bolts.
Will be starting after summer holidays.

Take care
Franco

PS
will be send you a PM with my skype contact.
 

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