Series Land Rover durability

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
Andrew Walcker said:
Oh Dave, you are going down the slipery slope to the dark side, resistance is futile:) I've owned (notice past tense) a 40, two 55s, 62 and an 80 and miss them all. All I can say is that the 40 and 55s were the only ones that could make me smile almost as much as I do when driving the 90. I've been watching your post over the last year and you are slowly coming around, just a few more degrees and the right old LR and you are a write-off. :26_7_2:
HAHA... Rome wasn't built in a day Andrew (I don't know this personaly but I've heard...)

yeah, whenever I fianly get into the house/property I want and build that great shop/barn I'm dreaming of, there will undoubtably be a Series Rover project in it along with an FJ55 as well...
Its like matchbox cars, I always went for the odd looking/interesting ones ya know... :safari-rig:
 

Alaska Mike

ExPo Moderator/Eye Candy
I'm certainly amazed by the availability of even the smallest Land Rover parts. While certain parts for some models are no longer available for various reasons, the fact that I can get the vast majority of them new from a variety of sources is pretty impressive. I don't expect this to continue forever, though. Sooner or later the Series owners will have to rely more on the used supply of parts to keep their vehicles running. It's just a supply and demand thing, and with the last of the Series rigs approaching 30 years old, it's only a matter of time. Still, it's better than anything I've seen for Toyota or Jeep.

However, I can't afford to get crazy about "being perfect" and "Gen-u-wine Land Rover (tm)" with shipping costs being as high as they are. My Rover was to the point I could have been down $20,000 if I tried to restore it, and it wouldn't have been any more functional. Coming from a Jeep background, I have no problem swapping in more capable parts from other brands as I see fit. The knowledge is out there. I'd rather see the remaining good parts go to Rovers that are in better initial shape and will be maintained in near-resto shape.

The only real reason for driving a Series Rover is the "funk factor". There's a certain charm to rolling without the power windows/doors, air conditioning, and all of the other trapping of modern automobiles, while knowing that you can fix whatever goes wrong with a little thought, some effort, and some basic parts. Then again, riding in Scott's Disco II was an eye opening experience. We hit a dusty, somewhat challenging trail and arrived home that night just as fresh as when we left. I wasn't too cold, too hot, near deaf, or greasy when the trip was over, and I was somewhat jealous. It had cupholders!!! No holding your Coke between your knees as you lean toward the feeble heater, trying to stay warm and out of the spray from passing semis. A different world. Sure TeriAnn has one of the most luxo Series rigs around, but by today's standards it's still a dinosaur. However, just as she has defined what it is and what it is capable of, it has defined her. I hope to have that kind of symbiotic relationship with my Rover one day. You certainly can't get that with a modern vehicle- they're just too generic.
 

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
I loved my series rover and found it to be quite reliable. 3rd gave out on it though and I had to replace the transmission and it did have quite a few things I had to replace (including eventually the frame, why I sold it)... It was the only vehicle I've owned that had directions written all over it such as it did which I thought was pretty neat... My largest complaint is probably the tremendous effort the manual steering it takes, a noticable amount versus say even an old Land Cruiser... Second complaint being top speed without an overdrive and the nutoriously weak axles which I luckily never had to replace. Otherwise I like Terry-Ann's philosophy quite a bit...

My dad was in Uganda once as well and he had contracted a nicer new Rover for rent, but when he met up with his partner on the trip the guy had already contracted a beat up old Series Rover.. So off they went. And literally in the middle of nowhere 3rd gear went out (similar to my Series) so they were limited to about 20 mph for the whole trip. They found a mechanic in a small village who removed the tranmission and completely took it apart to fix it... Gears all over the place, in the sand, completely disassembled. But he cleaned it and apparently made repairs, took two or three days that slowed down the trip further... Poured in the gear oil, got rolling. 3rd gear worked for about 5 minutes... And they were off...
 
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Martyn

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
RoverMack said:
I agree, picture from a few years ago

I love the picture of a fully equipped Expedition Land Rover, followed by a VW bus!
 

Chucaro

Adventurer
By my own experiences the only Toyota that comes close to a Land Rover was my FJ40. The only problem with it was the wheel base . To short.
Here in Oz the FJ55 disintegrates with rust and have terrible handling problems. The Land Rover 109 was a clear superior vehicle.
The maintenance of the Land Rover in Australia is ridiculous cheap, we can get spares new or used for a fraction of the cost os the Japanese 4WD.
Regarding Toyotas here in Oz I believe that the FJ75 & 80 are the last of the great 4WD produced by this company.
 

RoverMack

Adventurer
Martyn said:
I love the picture of a fully equipped Expedition Land Rover, followed by a VW bus!

The LR was an ex- MOD RAF Military Police vehicle, painted red to identify it as a tourist vehicle and not military. The photos was from a few years ago, Scotland to South Africa.

The VW bus did not read the sign attached below, once leaving Tamanrasset the sand became soft crossing the "great south" and i spent a lot of time pulling and digging out other vehicles, navigation in a sandstorm before GPS was tough, tracks vanished.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
Chucaro said:
By my own experiences the only Toyota that comes close to a Land Rover was my FJ40. The only problem with it was the wheel base . To short.
Here in Oz the FJ55 disintegrates with rust and have terrible handling problems. The Land Rover 109 was a clear superior vehicle.
The maintenance of the Land Rover in Australia is ridiculous cheap, we can get spares new or used for a fraction of the cost os the Japanese 4WD.
Regarding Toyotas here in Oz I believe that the FJ75 & 80 are the last of the great 4WD produced by this company.
I was about to say... Having been to your awsome part of the world, 75's and 80 absolutely rule the country (with Patrols being second), and while they may be more expensive, they really are amazing machines.

I really didn't see ANY rovers aside from the two old Series Rovers we had on the station(Lochenbar Station near the Kroombit Tops nat. Forrest which we lead tours through...) I worked on (I would guess an 88 and a 109???). While they were neat trucks, they did suffer from a number of malady's that are very comon to vehicles used as agricultural impliments. The 75's were far newer as were obviously the 80's and none of them even so much as had a hiccup. And to say we abused these Cruisers would be a massive understatement.

Basicly I'm sad that I ever left OZ, and I'm eternaly jealous of your amazing country and it's awsome selection of 4x4's ;)


Cheers

Dave
 

Chucaro

Adventurer
Hi Dave, I came from Uruguay in 1969 and adopted Australia as my country. not only is beautiful but very safe for the "drive about" people like us.
Land Rovers became more popular in Oz with the introduction of the Discovery, having said that, the Defender have a fantastic reputation and the resale value is very good.
Nevertheless the Landcrusier is the biggest seller following by the Nissan Patrol.
One of my friends just left my home in a short stop in his way from Cairns to Melbourne. He has a series 80 4.2 turbo diesel and mentioned that he uses about 18 to 20 liters of fuel in 100 km! This is the double of my Disco consumption or of a Defender Tdi300. I can not understand why the big 4x4 are so popular when the running cost is so high. When it is coming to spare parts and service the cost of maintaining a Patrol is astronomic.
Land Rovers built a bad reputation with broken shafts in the early series, but people do not understand that a well design utility vehicle needs a "fuse component" and I am rather replace a shaft in the outback that a transfer case like some of the other 4WDs
 

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