Small/light off road trailers.

rnArmy

Adventurer
Check this thread out:

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27...ype-trailer-ultimate-build-up-thread-1180456/

It is a long read, but it will pretty much walk you through using a HF type trailer frame and making a nice little adventure trailer. I have literally thousands of miles on this trailer, to include a couple of trips up into Alaska and Canada (to include the Dempster Highway).

But it is small, lightweight, simple, and will pretty much go anywhere. And even with just 235/75/15" tires on the trailer, there is more clearance under the trailer's axle than there is under the Jeep's rear Dana 44 pumpkin (by a couple inches) with 285/75/16" tires. The "RTT" is really just a Cabela's double sized tent-cot bolted to the lid of the trailer.
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rnArmy

Adventurer
Rnarmy, what’s your cover for your “rtt”?

I had a cover made custom at an upholstery shop. I brought the trailer to the shop (with the "rtt" attached), and they made it there. It is quite heavy duty with heavy duty zippers. It wasn't cheap though (about $400-something as I recall) but he did a very good job so I can't complain.
 
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borison

Adventurer
Thanks, looks good. Good to see how you secured your cot and the deck below it, looks useful. I’ve been kicking around mounting my single KampRite on my Subaru.
 

rnArmy

Adventurer
A little bit about tent cots. When my buddy and I went to northern Canada back in 2016 (to run the Dempster), he bought us two double-sized tent cots from Cabela's.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Deluxe-Tent-Cot-Double/1591314.uts?slotId=1 (sadly, girl not included)

We thought we'd try something different from our usual 10x13' tent with two oversized Army cots. We brought his Jeep ZJ and my little trailer on this trip.

A few things we learned from bringing two of these double sized tent cots:

1. They take up a ton of space when folded up (we had them in the back of his 98 Jeep ZJ - they would not fit inside the rack on top of the trailer - too big)
2. Like any small tent close to the ground, you have to crawl out of them on your hands-and-knees
3. You can't sit up in them (not enough head room)
4. They're not the quickest things to get out of the storage bag, unfold, and get ready for sleeping in
5. There's a bar running down the middle, so you have to sleep on one side, or the other (no sleeping in the middle)
6. One you're inside and in your sleeping bag though, they are pretty comfortable. The double size tent cot is good for one good-sized guy (or I guess two if you're willing to spoon)
7. They weigh about 55lb each
8. If it is cold out, the smaller inside space makes it warmer (or easier to heat since there's less volume to try to heat)
9. You can't store anything not related to the tent cot itself inside the tent cot when folding it up. You have to remove your sleeping bag, mats, pillows, etc.
10. Putting the rainfly on is now a little more difficult with the tent cot being elevated. I have to stand on the cooler when tossing the rainfly on top of the tent cot
11. I like the small awning the rainfly has built-in if you want to use it as such. Other tent cots don't have that ability. The fourth picture show the awning both up and down.

If you pull a trailer on the Dempster, make sure your tow vehicle has mud flaps (learn from our mistake - we didn't have them). After the trip, he took his Jeep home, and left me with one of the tent cots. I thought I'd mount it to the top of the trailer as an RTT (what the heck; it was free to me). So I took off the outer leg braces, and bolted it to the lid of my trailer. I took the rack off the top of the trailer and put it on the roof of my TJ. A couple things I've learned after using this set-up a few times camping:

1. It is actually easier to get in-and-out of now that it is off the ground
2. It is easier to set-up and take-down now that it is off the ground
3. I tried a ladder out the back. Didn't work that great - the spare tire interferes with the ladder
4. I now use a fold-down step on the cooler tray (in the picture beside the ammo can), then stand on the cooler and get into the tent cot (hence the tread on the cooler lid)
5. Getting a cover made was over $400 (You could possibly get it done cheaper). If I were starting from scratch (didn't have a tent cot given to me), I might consider an inexpensive "real" RTT (like a Smitybilt unit). This tent cot costs about $375, so add in the $400 plus for the cover, and you're close to an inexpensive RTT's cost.
6. They do make other tent-cots with more headroom which use fiberglass poles like this one: http://kamprite.com/shop/tents/tri-fold-series/kamp-rite-double-tent-cot/ (but it would be difficult to get the fiberglass poles in place if the tent cot is elevated on a trailer or rooftop). This Cabela's one uses metal tubing, and is built like a tank.
7. A "real" RTT usually weighs a little over 100lbs for starters. This tent cot weighs about 45 - 50 lbs with the outer legs removed. Makes opening the lid of the trailer a lot easier with less weight.

I'm in no rush to change it out. It is paid for, and it works. I can also store stuff under the tent on the trailer's lid (like traction mats - last picture).
 

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rnArmy

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Interesting. Post any close up pics, if you have or take them. Much appreciated, thanks.

I went out and snapped a few pictures of the "rtt" cover. It essentially unzips from the underside from both sides and the back, and then you just pull the whole thing forward, fold it up, and store it till time to fold the "rtt" back up. Five zippers total (two on each side, and one in the back).
 

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rnArmy

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On my last Army move from TX to WA, I had the trailer weighed fully loaded and "wet" (gas in containers, cooler full, that's a water can inside the spare tire, etc.). Came out to about 1250 lbs. This little trailer has proven itself over and over again. And it is amazing how much stuff you can carry in even a little 4' trailer. It has also been a fun little project that is still being tweaked. And it pulls nicely behind my four cylinder Jeep TJ. If you read the build thread (posted earlier) you could easily replicate this trailer. There's pretty much no welding, and it is pretty much a bolt-together project. If you read the build thread from beginning to end (it is long), it should answer any questions you may have.


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