so thats a what, exactly?

[toyrunner95]

i may be an R- TARD for asking this but here it goes.

ok so the icom and the yaesu are both hf/ fm tuners, right? which means they are both mobile ham radios? or the equivelent? im guessing? so i can talk to people all over the country/world. now i have to get some sort of licence for this correct? and if i take that class will they tell me what all the fancy terms are and what they mean?

what is the difference between the two, i like the look of the icom 7000 but thats about as far as my technical knowledge goes.

 

[Pskhaat]

The first FCC test is the ``technician'' license and it gives you access to Amateur bands 50MHz and above. HF is really more the bands below 50MHz and requires extra testing.

As for classes, it depends on each class, but they should at least give you an introduction to this.

The mobile radios that you're most likely looking at are called 2m/70cm band radios (~146/440MHz), and these have access to `repeaters' (other radios on mountain tops that re-trasmit) that can be linked over the Internet to other repeaters thus giving you effective world-wide coverage. HF frequencies on the other hand have the properties of world-wide communication without employing repeaters.

There's suprisingly sparse information to be found for a newbie out there, so please feel free to ask any of us further questions.

 

[Grim Reaper]

So what does a FCC GROL entitle me to?


I had to get one when I was doing repair work. Most of the Broadcast part of the test was for ship to ship and ship to shore. Then a ton of Antenna stuff.

 

[crawler#976]

A General Radiotelephone Operator License does not apply to Amateur Radio, it is a commercial licence only. If you passed the element 1 and 3 portion of the GROL, the testing for a Tech licence should be a breeze.

 

[DaveInDenver]

A GROL lets you operate maritime radios and additionally repair maritime and aircraft radios. Doesn't buy you anything for a ham license other than test taking practice.

To the original poster, check out the ARRL's beginner's site:
http://www.hello-radio.org/

Or for a bit more surfing, the actual ARRL site:
http://www.arrl.org/

 

[gary in ohio]

i may be an R- TARD for asking this but here it goes.

ok so the icom and the yaesu are both hf/ fm tuners, right? which means they are both mobile ham radios? or the equivelent? im guessing? so i can talk to people all over the country/world. now i have to get some sort of licence for this correct? and if i take that class will they tell me what all the fancy terms are and what they mean?

what is the difference between the two, i like the look of the icom 7000 but thats about as far as my technical knowledge goes.

Its hard to tell what your talking about. First HF is high frequency and is a set of frequencies. FM is a modulation method and imply no frequencies by itself. You can use FM on HF the same as using FM on VHF. Neither would indicate mobile, as all can be used mobile, base or portable.

HF is capabile of world wide communications. Yes you need a license to transmit on ham frequencies. The icom 7000 is a HF/VHF/UHF radio, An all in one radio. Your best bet is to find a local ham club and work with them through a class or someone (elmer) who will work with you to get your license.

 

[toyrunner95]

yeah i got the "hf/fm" off of the icom site it was in the title of the 7000.

i pulled my head out a bit and actually read the overland journal, i usally am too easily overcome by the pretty pictures, but i found there to be words within the pages, i just thought they were borders for the pictures.

anyway i found the article on the amature radio stuff.
if i understand it correctly. i need to get a tech licence to operate on the amature ham radio mobile unit.... thingy. i can get one by contacting my local ham radio... chapter/clan/cult. NOW THEN. all the fancy terms are for different things, like HF is high frequency, and CB is citizen band. am i right?

i think this is what my dad used in his old DNR vehicles. we used to call my mom all the time on those father son work days.

OOO i almost forgot. if i get the licence can i use it to make phone call type things? however that works. eletronic wizzardry. because if it does i would encourage my brother and my parents to get them in their RV trailers so they can get ahold of someone if they need help. they have a tendancy to take those things to some of the most remote places.

 

[gary in ohio]

anyway i found the article on the amature radio stuff.
if i understand it correctly. i need to get a tech licence to operate on the amature ham radio mobile unit.... thingy. i can get one by contacting my local ham radio... chapter/clan/cult. NOW THEN. all the fancy terms are for different things, like HF is high frequency, and CB is citizen band. am i right?

YOU need a ham license to operate on the ham bands. THere are several license classes and the bands you can operate depend on your license class.
CB has nothing to do with ham radio, no license is required for CB, but one is require for ham radio.

i think this is what my dad used in his old DNR vehicles. we used to call my mom all the time on those father son work days.

Ham radio would NOT have been on a DNR vehicle, ham radio is a non business radio service.

OOO i almost forgot. if i get the licence can i use it to make phone call type things? however that works. eletronic wizzardry. because if it does i would encourage my brother and my parents to get them in their RV trailers so they can get ahold of someone if they need help. they have a tendancy to take those things to some of the most remote places.

Your license doenst give your the ability to make phones calls. It does give you the ability to use repeaters and some repeaters do have phone patches that allow phone line interconnected. These patches are not ment to replace cell phones and you must have a repeater in range to make a call.

 

[lassar]

So what does a FCC GROL entitle me to?


I had to get one when I was doing repair work. Most of the Broadcast part of the test was for ship to ship and ship to shore. Then a ton of Antenna stuff.

General Radiotelephone Operator License is required to adjust, maintain,
or internally repair FCC licensed radiotelephone transmitters in the
aviation, maritime, and international fixed public radio services.

It is also required to operate the following:

* Any maritime land radio station or compulsorily equipped ship
radiotelephone station operating with more than 1500 watts of
peak envelope power.

* Voluntarily equipped ship and aeronautical(including aircraft) stations
with more than 1000 watts of peak envelope power.

Jobs that a GROL License can be helpful in getting:

* Broadcast Engineer
* Radio Engineer

Other Job Positions requiring the GROL are:

* Aviation Radio Technician
* Avionics Technician
* Communications Specialist
* Field Technician
* Microwave Technician
* Radio Systems Specialist
* RF Engineer
* Satellite Systems Engineer
* Telecom Bench Technician
* TV Broadcast Maintenance