The Trail Servis Concept

dirty Bakers

Conservative
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Here is my trailer concept. The name "Servis" comes from what is stamped on the back. I have the basic utility box and its on a toyota converted to a trailer frame. I bought it from an family friend (who was planning on making it a camping trailer) for $200. On top you will find a in house built TTT (trailer top tent) and at the front of the tongue sits an in house built very well insulated Ice chest. First things first It needs a new frame and swing arm suspension. I am still in the process of gathering parts and components. I want to install wagoneer front hubs for it to roll and I need some spindles to start with. I'm not exactly sure where everything is going to go but when we go camping COOKing & EATing are on the list of favorite activities.
 

indiedog

Adventurer
Looks great. I think there's a lot of potential in trailers of this sort. They could be quite compact but with really efficient storage. I think the only problem with the idea is they end up pretty heavy.

The tent looks big. Is it a RTT type arrangement (ie, the bed folds in half) or similar to the Aussie designs based on a full queen sized bed?
 

dirty Bakers

Conservative
Its going to be more like 2 seperate beds and the tent is only 7' length wise its just a small trailer the trailer is under 6' and I am 6'2" so it had to over hang. I have been thinking about weight but there isnt much I can do. This will be multiple purpose in that I will use it to hit the trails and also as a chuck wagon for family reuions, scout camps and church activities.
 

dirty Bakers

Conservative
The dirty Bakers 416 w/ top

This is the trailer we are working with now. My trail service project is the ultimate goal but camping wont wait for that to be finished. Seems like every time I pull the trail service out I get caught up in another project or work gets busy or a new opportunity comes along. We bought this from my fathers uncle. He built the top and pulled it behind his 1969 CJ5 of matching color.
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This is what we are towing it with. At the moment we are installing an SOA.
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So if you see me out on the back roads of AZ don't hesitate to flag me down.
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Me Likey FSJs...

Howdy to a brother FSJ owner! Nice Waggy. I like your concept but I too think the weigh may be a bit of an issue.?. You will need a set of airbags in the back of the waggy to help keep it lever if your doing the SOA on factory springs. Heck, even with aftermarket Rustys springs on mine it does the doggy-butt scoot boogie when I tow.
Another thing of a little interest is plastic. I was wandering past the maintenance motorpool the other day (I'm in Iraq as I write this) and saw an unusual trailer. It is obviously designed to be some type of service/repair deal that looks a lot like your "service" box...only this one was made of plastic!?! Didn't get a chance to poke around or take a pic but you may be able to google on? Maybe worth some looking into to see if some of that engineering could be applied to lighten you metal one?? Good luck...Subscribed!
 

dirty Bakers

Conservative
Thanks for the info. I was actually just talking to our spring shop about re arching and sagging with a trailer. then we got on the topic of rubber versus poly and I for rubber and he is for poly (this applies to trailers too). What do you think?

Thank you Jeep Dreamer for fighting to ensure or freedom.
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Thanks for the info. I was actually just talking to our spring shop about re arching and sagging with a trailer. then we got on the topic of rubber versus poly and I for rubber and he is for poly (this applies to trailers too). What do you think?

Thank you Jeep Dreamer for fighting to ensure or freedom.

A couple thoughts come to mind here, all just my opinion and based on little more than my own experiences so take that as you will.
-Rearching springs has usually proven to be a temp. fix. Somehow the retempering and curving of a "used spring" never seems to last or perform as the OE did. And in the case of adding a little extra arch to compensate, the spring will lose its original length...not good either. Similarly, using an add a leaf (AAL) is only a temp fix and results in a harsher ride wile unloaded. In some cases the use of it will actually cause the original leaves to fail faster as they were not designed for it to be there...Not that they break or anything, just cycle differently and will deteriorate faster until you are back where you started, if not worse. Not to mention that even the newest FSJ/Waggy would have springs that have already spent almost 20 years holding up the rotund ones...
So if your intenet is SOA to fit bigger tires I would suggest you look at all components carefully. Try and judge the condition of the originals if possible. If all the require is new bushings (get to that in a minute), then cool. But if you will need to repair or replace them prior to going SOA...you may weigh the cost vs a kit such as BJs or Rustys.?.
Bushings...
While Poly was all the rage in the late 80's and through the 90s I feel there are some areas they are not really warranted. Leaf springs on a vehicle I will usually stick to rubber. I find it softer and less expensive when applied to a part I may be replacing at intervals anyway. Poly seems to be more race oriented which is not what I do with my jeeps so I don't run it. Only exceptions here are when the original rubber is either no longer available or the price is similar and performance is a non-issue.
On a trailer though I find it a different story. The reality is that trailers tend to spend the lions share of their life sitting and doing nothing. Its true. And while performance is niether here nor there with a trailer realistically...I feel that by nature poly will out live a static item far longer. Rubber deteriorates over time much faster than poly does. And since there are far less bushings needed on a trailer and "ride quality" is not a concern then I will always go poly on my trailers unless it is a restoration.
Hope my little opinions are helpful...let me know if you need more! :elkgrin:
 

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