Too big for an overlander??!!

yota_mota

New member
Hey fellow trail lovers! I haven't started a build thread with my new (to me) truck so I felt it was time. I love reading other people's threads about even the most subtle mods they do to their rigs so I thought I would provide that same entertainment! My truck is much larger than Jeeps and Toyotas and was curious if it was too big to navigate some overland trails without encountering serious body damage. But it's a gamble with any rig the second you go off the pretty paved roads, so we'll see how it goes!

Well let's get started!

The "project rig" is a 2004 GMC Sierra CCSB gas pig. Most "truck guys" see my truck and wonder why I didn't get a duramax version. Well here's the simple answer: the diesel option of the same truck I have would've been $5-7k more in purchase price and I'd rather do a cummins swap anyways for around half that cost. The cummins swap is a definite plan, but probably not for another 2-3 years while I save and build up the parts list. In the meantime I have a cam'd LQ9 with other goodies that I plan to replace the LQ4 with. The LQ4 has adequate power at best and highly lacks when I'm towing cars/trucks on my trailer. The LQ9 will have an additional 90-100 hp at least and I'll be adding a beefier stall converter as well to help manage that power a little better.

The truck doesn't currently have a lot of mods but that never stays the same as we all know. It has a 4"(ish) Fabtech lift with a custom dual shock mount setup in the front. The lift was already on there when I bought it and I was only mildly impressed by it especially considering that I plan to go to a solid axle/coilover setup in the future. I will also be doing a 4 link setup in the rear with a properly built 14 bolt. I really really really really REALLY want to build a flatbed for it but I've been hesitant because I want the flatbed to be very functional, modular, and somewhat lighter than the average farm truck flatbed. I've seen some builds on the Toyota forums because I used to be a diehard Toyota guy (hence the user name haha) but I've yet to see a flatbed build for these full size trucks that I really love. I still need to build up my metal working tools (bender, brake, etc) before I take on a serious project like a whole truck flatbed!

This truck is my daily driver, tow pig, oversized wheel barrow, backup for the wife, adventure rig, and just about anything else I can throw at it! So I'd like to pull all the stops on this rig and have it outperform the newer trucks on the road that cost almost 3 times what I paid for it. Any suggestions, comments, or even hate, is fair game on my truck so feel free to give me your best or even your worst!!

So quick recap list of current and future mods:

Current mods:

4" Fabtech lift with dual shocks in the front

35" Procomp extreme all-terrains (that I absolutely love!)

Spyder Auto Custom headlights and LED marker lights

Flex-a-lite dual electric fans (pricey but VERY worth it)

Spectre cold(ish) air intake (cheap but effective)

Huge cat back exhaust, maybe a 4"? (Idk, I didn't install it)

Bully Dog performance tuner (meh)

Pioneer 7" touchscreen DVD player and component speakers

Quick disconnects for mobile winch in the front and rear


Future mods:

Solid axle swap w/hp Dana 60 with hydro assist, 4 links and coilovers

Corporate 14 ff axle in the rear with air locker, coilovers and 4 link

LQ9 with comp cam, long tubes, intake, injectors and possibly more

Custom tube bumpers and sliders with 2" hitch mounts for winch

Custom off-road flatbed build with modular system for multiple uses

40" maxxis trepador tires

Over cab rack setup for RTT, solar, and other cargo

Possible 6BT CTD swap down the road

And many many more!!!

Thanks for the long read and stay tuned for updates coming real soon!!


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Dalko43

Explorer
Awesome looking truck!

I'm a big fan of the 'keep it simple' principle. If you're really dead set on doing a diesel swap, my take is you should just sell this vehicle for and go buy a GM or Dodge 3/4 ton that already has that option. I had no idea that the used Duramax GM's went for $5-7k more than the gasoline variants. I did notice that GM pickup's with Duramax's can be found for quite a bit cheaper than comparable Cummins-equipped Dodge trucks. You've probably done more brainstorming on this than I have, so I won't try to dissuade you from your plans though. I'm sure it will serve you well in your adventures.
 

Barb The Yeti

Observer
Looks great! It's awesome to see another full size GM on the board.
A 3/4 ton is certainly not too big, but you may have to squeeze in some areas.
I love how ambitious your project is, I am excited to see how it turns out! My advice though, is to keep the tires to a max of 37 or 38's to maintain practicality, and highway manners. Also, I would put some money in great shocks. I had no idea a truck with 35's could ride like a caddilac until I put king coilovers on my silverado.
 

Stryder106

Explorer
Welcome. No your rig is not too big to do trails - it's the same size as my Avalanche. You just have to know your limitations. We just went through Goler Wash and Mengel in Death Valley - I can't get much (any) tighter than that. But, I avoid things marked "Jeep Trail" or SWB vehicles - and look for other options. Remember this - a modern JK is only slightly shorter than your truck and is actually wider.
 

yota_mota

New member
For some reason diesel trucks in general are creeping up in price because I had my heart set on one until I starting seeing the prices people want for used ones. I can get a cummins swap done for 4-5k depending on the condition of the engine and whether I go 12 or 24 valve. It's not a priority for me at least not this year so I'm gonna stick with my gas chugger for a little while longer. I just want better fuel economy so I'm more enthusiastic about taking longer trips, plus I tow quite a bit so I need the extra torque that a diesel provides. As far as tires go, I would at least want to go with a 38 because the solid axle lift would bring it up at least 4 more inches than what it is now and I'd have plenty of clearance for large tires. It's very true what you say about King coilovers riding like a caddy because my friend had those on his solid axle swapped '96 OBS and he puts IFS ride "comfort" to shame! He has nitro powered shocks so he can change the ride stiffness whenever he wants. I went riding on a trail with him one time and I couldn't believe how easy the truck took all the rocks and rutted terrain! However King shocks are at the top of the pile when it comes to price and I priced mine out at $2400 for all 4 shocks!! I guess I'll just buy one at a time over a year haha!!


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chilliwak

Expedition Leader
Nice looking truck Yota. When you do the Cummins swap is a sas project in the works? Welcome to the site and thanks for posting a pic of your rig. Looking forward to seeing updates and more pics. Cheers, Chilli..:)
 

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