spressomon
Expedition Leader
Ok...here's a cross post about these tires:
I got the Toyo Open Country AT 285R75 18 tires mounted & installed about 10-days ago on my '99 Hundy (Toyota Land Cruiser 100 Series for you non-Toyota folks). I've put over 400 hundred miles on them in the last week and here are some of the differences I've noticed compared to the Goodyear MT/R 315R75 16 that I had been running the past 3-years.
The new combo tire and alloy wheel (Tundra OEM alloy wheel; brand new tire): 99lbs. (15% heavier!)
The old combo tire and alloy wheel (OEM LC alloy wheel; 1/3 worn tread): 84lbs.
Initially the rig looked neked! No question: The MT/R's win hands down in the looks department. But having said that the look of the tall and relatively skinny Toyo AT's is kinda starting to grow on me.
I can tell the new combo is heavier: The rig takes a bit more energy and/or time to get up to speed. MPG is about a wash...I get a little less actually with the new combo, in spite of the AT tread, around town. However the new combo is slightly better on the highway in regards to MPG. Kinda makes sense: Takes more energy to initiate wheel rotation but the smoother tread probably makes up for it after cruising speed is reached and maintained.
I was able to drive a 50-mile stretch of gravel road with washboard, tight turns and flat out stretches with each new/old combo within a week of each other. The new combo handles the washboard better (more controlled) as well as providing better grip in the corners at higher cornering speeds. I was surprised by this: I assumed the MT/R tread would provide better gravel road handling characteristics. And I was surprised too since the MT/R is a "D" rated tire and the Toyo in this size is an "E" rated tire with the same 3-ply sidewall as the Toyo OC MT!
The Toyo's win hands down in the balance department. These are as smooth and balanced as everyone that has compared Toyo's to Goodyear's before me has stated.
There is no comparison, of course, on road: Better handling, smoother, quieter, etc. with the Toyo AT: No surprise there. However at 50psi they definitely feel like an E rated tire! They are definitely firm riding. I will probably try them at 45psi to feel the difference. Also this is the identical carcass (sidewall, tread, etc) to the E rated Toyo Open Country MT.
I did just a little trail driving and didn't really notice a negative to the AT tread. However I need to spend alot more time on rock strewn trails, etc to lay down a fair assessment. I would expect to see a drop in this performance arena; but we shall see.
More updates as I get more miles and terrain types underneath them.
Just thought someone might like to know...
Dan
I got the Toyo Open Country AT 285R75 18 tires mounted & installed about 10-days ago on my '99 Hundy (Toyota Land Cruiser 100 Series for you non-Toyota folks). I've put over 400 hundred miles on them in the last week and here are some of the differences I've noticed compared to the Goodyear MT/R 315R75 16 that I had been running the past 3-years.
The new combo tire and alloy wheel (Tundra OEM alloy wheel; brand new tire): 99lbs. (15% heavier!)
The old combo tire and alloy wheel (OEM LC alloy wheel; 1/3 worn tread): 84lbs.
Initially the rig looked neked! No question: The MT/R's win hands down in the looks department. But having said that the look of the tall and relatively skinny Toyo AT's is kinda starting to grow on me.
I can tell the new combo is heavier: The rig takes a bit more energy and/or time to get up to speed. MPG is about a wash...I get a little less actually with the new combo, in spite of the AT tread, around town. However the new combo is slightly better on the highway in regards to MPG. Kinda makes sense: Takes more energy to initiate wheel rotation but the smoother tread probably makes up for it after cruising speed is reached and maintained.
I was able to drive a 50-mile stretch of gravel road with washboard, tight turns and flat out stretches with each new/old combo within a week of each other. The new combo handles the washboard better (more controlled) as well as providing better grip in the corners at higher cornering speeds. I was surprised by this: I assumed the MT/R tread would provide better gravel road handling characteristics. And I was surprised too since the MT/R is a "D" rated tire and the Toyo in this size is an "E" rated tire with the same 3-ply sidewall as the Toyo OC MT!
The Toyo's win hands down in the balance department. These are as smooth and balanced as everyone that has compared Toyo's to Goodyear's before me has stated.
There is no comparison, of course, on road: Better handling, smoother, quieter, etc. with the Toyo AT: No surprise there. However at 50psi they definitely feel like an E rated tire! They are definitely firm riding. I will probably try them at 45psi to feel the difference. Also this is the identical carcass (sidewall, tread, etc) to the E rated Toyo Open Country MT.
I did just a little trail driving and didn't really notice a negative to the AT tread. However I need to spend alot more time on rock strewn trails, etc to lay down a fair assessment. I would expect to see a drop in this performance arena; but we shall see.
More updates as I get more miles and terrain types underneath them.
Just thought someone might like to know...
Dan
