When will Toyota make this truck?

[calicamper]

Keep in mind production cost difference between a full size and these mid sized rigs is probably nearly exactly the same. In order to make the numbers work the trend is adding content so the buyer isnt paying stupid high prices for a stripped out basic truck. I would be perfectly happy with a rubber mat floor board, no frills Manual 4dr with leather power seats lumbar on both sides for the front passengers, but the pricing numbers simply dont pencil out like that they cant make and sell the stripped but full 4x4 machine for enough of a profit, but add content and up the price tag and it starts to work.

By the way my wife has say and the Taco wouldn't make it past the first 60seconds pulling out of the parking lot for a test drive. No passenger Lumbar its Dead before it even had a chance, same goes for the Colorado. Unless a seat can be sourced and installed with the power adjustments and lumbar which case everything else about the truck has to be a grand slam. The Canyon is currently the only option that has a fighting chance. The Ranger interior is slightly roomier, and has the potential to pass the wife test. Heated cooled, power front seats like her 2016 Fusion Titanium would be a grand slam, with the 6spd manual and locking rear diff I'd be the first in line to order one.

By the way the cooled seats in the wifes 2016 Fusion, I swear every truck should get them as standard equipment. Of any **** **** fluffy bs options I've seen over the years the cooled sport seat hands down my top favorite fluffy bs option I could really go for. Give me a stripped out 6spd manual 4x4 with locking rear diff and nice cooled sort seats and I would be in auto bliss.

 

[Flagster]

Meh...for what I need a tacoma is just fine...payload is my only issue and if I really want more for a camper or such I would just get one of the big three HD offerings...plenty nice and reliable...
My tacoma is gone as of yesterday though so I can't speak from experience anymore...

 

[AaronK]

Government mandated backup camera?

My question as well

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[calicamper]

Yup all passenger / light duty vehicles must have backup camera and TPMS. My big complaint is the best backup camera set up apparently isn't GOV approved. The small screen embeded into the rearview mirror right were your eyes should be vs looking down at the damn dash.

 

[onemanarmy]

Why is the govt involved in TPMS and backup cameras? (Rhetorical)

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Toyota likes to have a 60-day supply of vehicles on US soil, i.e. 2 months worth of inventory to cover sales throughout the US assuming no new inventory rolled off the line or boat. With the current Tacoma, they have less than a 2-week supply and they are doing everything they can to make more. You don't fix something that isn't broke (from a sales standpoint). On top of that, consider fleet economy standards (CAFE), sell more Tacomas, you need to sell more Prius, etc. Works on paper, doesn't always work with the consumer at the dealer. I've chatted about this ad nauseam with Toyota marketing and engineers... they have no immediate plans to introduce a diesel given the incoming CAFE and EPA standards and continued strong sales of the Tacoma and Tundra sans diesel. Gas is super cheap right now... doesn't make a diesel as desirable.

 

[calicamper]

All the auto makers with selling vehicles are short inventory today. Auto makers with excess inventory are simply lacking leadership to stay in business. Subaru is basically an order only option today and loving it.
The days of big vehicle stock is over. Much easier to sell at MSRP when the buyer cant see any other options on the lot.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

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Eh. We'll see. Right now the Colorado gets lots of attention because it's the new, shiny thing on the market but the real test will be whether GM stays behind it or whether they pull the plug if sales start to flag or if they think it's taking sales away from their full sized line. As for the rumors about Ford bringing the Ranger back, I'll believe that when I see it.
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People who buy new and plan to keep for 200K miles are such a small segment of the market that it makes no sense to roll out a product line for them. Do the math - average number of miles driven is between 12,000 and 15,000 annually so you'd be talking about someone who buys a truck new and keeps it in excess of 10 years. I'd be willing to bet the % of people who buy a NEW compact truck and keep it that long is probably a fraction of a percent.
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Yes, I know there are people who keep their vehicles longer than 10 years but a lot of those people don't buy new in the first place.
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As for towing, if someone really expects to do a lot of towing they probably wouldn't be shopping a mid-sized vehicle, they'd go for a full sized.
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Finally, I'm skeptical about "fuel savings" with a diesel. The difference between Diesel MPG and gasoline MPG is shrinking, as diesels become more complex and gas engines become more efficient. Additionally, in many markets diesel fuel is more expensive than gas so even a 20% decrease in fuel consumption may only be a 10% decrease in fuel cost.

I agree 100%